The 86 Senators who Voted to Pass NDAA need to #Occupy the Unemployment Line

This year’s National Defense Authorization Act has just passed through the Senate. The only obstacle is President Obama and historically he caves into vocal opposition, and looking at the lengthy list of Senators voting Yea, this abomination this could very well pass.

 

The 13 Senators that voted Nay on this year’s version of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), with 86 voting Yea:

Cardin (D-MD)
Coburn (R-OK)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Durbin (D-IL)
Franken (D-MN)
Harkin (D-IA)
Lee (R-UT)
Merkley (D-OR)
Paul (R-KY)
Risch (R-ID)
Sanders (I-VT)
Wyden (D-OR)

One was apparently too busy to vote: Moran (R-KS)

 

Although the most tyrannical part of the Act has been restructured, this is a tell:

Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities, relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States.”

As PoliticusUSA’s Ray Medeiros points out:

What does EXISTING law say about the detention of American citizens. That is what we need to be concerned with. If existing law states American citizens can be detained indefinitely, by the military, that is the law or laws that need to be changed, rather than this current appropriations act.

 

Jameel Jaffer, deputy legal director at ACLU, said Wednesday night that the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) of 2012 was still highly problematic despite changes to the bill. “It was an awful bill before and it is an awful bill now,” he told MSNBC host Rachel Maddow.

The restructured version of the bill kept the provisions but exempted U.S. citizens to be held in military custody and included language stating that the bill did not extend new authority to detain U.S. citizens. If we need to dissect this swiftly passed Act to this degree, warning signs should be blaring in your head and the fact that, that particular provision was even contained in the bill should alarm you. Why was that provision contained in the bill to begin with?

 The NDAA will stifle our Constitutional Rights and most probably will pass, and most definitely without the approval of Americans. This is reminiscent of the Patriot Act. Our government is now allowed to spy on their citizens. We are not supposed to fear our government, and now, regardless of any restructuring done in this Act, it’s a step in a very wrong direction. Did any of us believe that detainees held in Gitmo without being charged, some of them most assuredly were  innocent, would not happen to any of us?  As advocates of torture applauded this, most of us knew, this was an infringement upon their rights. If that sounds bleak, it’s meant to because now we’re being threatened with the same scenario. 

 Regardless of how politicos spin the passage of NDAA, it opens the door to invasive tactics which infringe upon our freedom. It’s one step in a direction America should never venture into. President Obama could possibly veto it but that’s doubtful. We’ll see, but meanwhile keep your eye on this list of Yeas, and vote them out. Sure, some of the 13 Senators possibly came to the realization that Americans will retaliate at the voting booth if they allow the passage of NDAA, but whether it’s out of conscience or political posturing, those opposing the Act should be held up, while those passing it, should pay a stiff price by occupying an unemployment line.

Occupy NDAA. Gain our freedom back, and ignore the spin doctors and bots who are attempting to make this into something healthy for our country. It is not.

 

The lengthy list of the Senators who passed this bill:

YEAs —86
Akaka (D-HI)
Alexander (R-TN)
Ayotte (R-NH)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Baucus (D-MT)
Begich (D-AK)
Bennet (D-CO)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Blumenthal (D-CT)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Brown (R-MA)
Burr (R-NC)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coats (R-IN)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Coons (D-DE)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Enzi (R-WY)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hagan (D-NC)
Hatch (R-UT)
Heller (R-NV)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Inouye (D-HI)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Johnson (D-SD)
Johnson (R-WI)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kirk (R-IL)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Kohl (D-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lugar (R-IN)
Manchin (D-WV)
McCain (R-AZ)
McCaskill (D-MO)
McConnell (R-KY)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Portman (R-OH)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Rubio (R-FL)
Schumer (D-NY)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Shelby (R-AL)
Snowe (R-ME)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Thune (R-SD)
Toomey (R-PA)
Udall (D-CO)
Udall (D-NM)
Vitter (R-LA)
Warner (D-VA)
Webb (D-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wicker (R-MS)

 

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1481937034 Tara Rick McIntyre

    traitors. with all of the anti goverment sentiment going around does anyone really believe they will only be targeting al quida in the u.s.? does everyone remember the memo from homeland security warning law enforcement to be on the look out for returning veterans and right wing groups that could be domestic terrorist ? this is nothing more than a lawyer move to word it properly to violate rights. the key word being terrorist

    • Frances13

      Now occupiers are on the terrorist watch list in the UK, so that would pretty much categorize OWSers as worthy of detainment in their eyes.

    • Rjfilm

      Yes and all of us that are objecting to what they have done and commented on here are now considered terrorist!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1481937034 Tara Rick McIntyre

    traitors. with all of the anti goverment sentiment going around does anyone really believe they will only be targeting al quida in the u.s.? does everyone remember the memo from homeland security warning law enforcement to be on the look out for returning veterans and right wing groups that could be domestic terrorist ? this is nothing more than a lawyer move to word it properly to violate rights. the key word being terrorist

    • Frances13

      Now occupiers are on the terrorist watch list in the UK, so that would pretty much categorize OWSers as worthy of detainment in their eyes.

    • Rjfilm

      Yes and all of us that are objecting to what they have done and commented on here are now considered terrorist!

  • http://www.facebook.com/rraznikov Richard Raznikov

    The names of House and Senate members who voted to eviscerate the Bill of Rights should be widely circulated. The American people should target them for defeat in the next election, regardless of party or ‘ideological orientation’. The only way to reverse this sickness is to punish it and the only way to punish it is to defeat these people. My Senators, Boxer and Feinstein, in casting their votes, have violated their oaths of office. I am ashamed of them both.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rraznikov Richard Raznikov

    The names of House and Senate members who voted to eviscerate the Bill of Rights should be widely circulated. The American people should target them for defeat in the next election, regardless of party or ‘ideological orientation’. The only way to reverse this sickness is to punish it and the only way to punish it is to defeat these people. My Senators, Boxer and Feinstein, in casting their votes, have violated their oaths of office. I am ashamed of them both.

  • http://www.facebook.com/william.stillings William Stillings

    TREASON

  • http://twitter.com/UBIEE UBIEE- 8 Solutions

    You real do no deserve much better. You went into the Wars for bringing US Democracy to the people of other nations, and since most us citizens are so ignorant about the true fact and truth why you go out and bring hunger, disaster and killings under the name of democracy. Now you get a fair portion of what your rules have giving other nations as their remedies. It is US Citizens time to get lifted to the next level of Civil obedience. You get what you do in most countries. It is not Treason just that your country leaders do not consider you worth much more than being a Terrorist if you think different.

    Gob Bless your Nation. We left if many years ago when people got treated like in Nazi Germany. Just this is not Germany. Get rid of your leaders you get rid of your problems.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mirela.monte Mirela Monte

    Only 7 Senators voted against the actual bill. The vote you’re presenting here is the final vote for the finished product, the adjustment between the House Bill H.R.1540 and the Senate Bill S.1867 before being sent to the President for signing.

    The vote of utmost importance was the vote on the actual bill, not this final adjustment. On that, only the following seven Senators voted against it:

    Coburn
    Harkin
    Lee
    Merkley
    Paul
    Sanders
    Wyden

    Incidentally, six of these senators also voted against The Patriot Act Extension earlier this year:

    Harkin
    Lee
    Merkley
    Paul
    Sanders
    Wyden

    These, my dear Americans, are the only Senators who work for us… all six of them!

    • Don McAdams

      I was thinking the same thing. When I read this, I remembered the 93-7 vote from Dec. 1st, too. However, upon looking for more vote details of that vote, I discovered 2 amendments to NDAA that passed with crazy majorities, 99-1 and 100-0. The 99-1 was good, “Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities, relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States.” Sen. Graham said on the floor that it would limit interrogations of Americans who support terrorism, but Sen. Kyl was the only one who voted against this amendment.

      http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?r112:1:./temp/~r112WyAmfg:e224443: (If the link doesn’t work, try copy/paste, and don’t forget the “:” at the end, some site’s truncate it for some reason, but it needs to be there). Scroll down to the paragraph that starts with “SA 1414. Mr. LEVIN (for Mr. Menendez (for himself and Mr. Kirk)) proposed an amendment to the bill S. 1867…”

      This amendment to NDAA passed with all 100 Senators voting yea, and is basically a list of more stringent sanctions on Iran.

      “Iran, is designated as of primary money laundering concern… because of the threat to government and financial institutions resulting from the illicit activities of the Government of Iran, including its pursuit of nuclear weapons, support for international terrorism, and efforts to deceive responsible financial institutions and evade sanctions.” Not too surprising until I read the part about “efforts to deceive RESPONSIBLE FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS?! Where are those? Are they referring to the Rothschild banks all over the world? The IMF? I almost lost my coffee lol!

      So, there’s a section authorizing the President to freeze all of Iran’s assets “in the United States, come within the United States, or are or come within the possession or control of a United States person.” And as if the Citizen’s United case wasn’t clear enough, Levin goes further to define a US person as, well a US person, but also as “an entity that is organized under the laws of the United States or jurisdiction within the United States.”

      There are exceptions for food, medicine, and medical devices, but the oil sanctions are the core. The goal is to stop the whole world from buying oil from Iran. “The President shall… conduct outreach to petroleum-producing countries to encourage those countries to increase their output of crude oil to ensure there is a sufficient supply,,, from countries other than Iran and to minimize any impact on the price of oil resulting from the imposition of sanctions under this section.”

      If Iran were really capable of attacking US, I’d say get ready for war. This is, at the least, 100% approval from ALL of our worthless Senate congresscritters to start the war with not only US citizens, but also explicitly Iran. It’s all about the oil, they pose no real threat to US, probably not Israel neither.

      My conclusion would be that there are NO Senators who work for US, but I’m left wondering why these 7 would vote for the amendment but against the bill itself. Regardless, these 6 get a pass this time, the rest need tried for treason, because the 93 that voted for it last time may not have gotten a chance to recant – it could’ve passed the House as is and went straight to Obomber’s desk – and Coburn needs to pay for the unPatriot Act vote (thanx for connecting the 2 votes, extremely relevant IMO). Now to examine the House votes and hold them accountable, and Obomber too if he signs this pos bill – and he said he will, surprise surprise…

      • http://www.facebook.com/RealisticPC Don McAdams

        Well, the link doesn’t work on the Library of Congress website, search link timed out. It’s a chore to actually find it, I started here, http://www.govtrack.us/congress/amendment.xpd?session=112&amdt=s1414 . First click is either of the “Thomas” links. Next page I clicked the link in this sentence at the top, “TEXT OF AMENDMENT AS SUBMITTED: CR S7933-7934.” Then scroll to the bottom of that page and click “Page: S7934.” That’ll take you to the amendment that I was quoting in the previous comment. Now I see why a lot of political news and blogs don’t link to the wording directly, what a pain in the ass! Makes me wonder if there isn’t a direct link to page S7934, but it would probably still be a search link that would just time out again.

        • David Loper

          Amendment 1414 was done by UC (unanimous consent) meaning it can be added to the bill without an actual vote. If no Senator was there to refute the language or call for a roll call vote (for example they were at lunch at the time when the traitors were talking) they can easily add the portion to the bill with the clerk recording the vote as 100-0, unanimous. The finality of the bill is what is in question here and these 7 senators (3R 3D 1I) voted against it.

          • http://www.facebook.com/RealisticPC Don McAdams

            The point was that not one Senator that was present voted against the Iran sanctions, which will lead to war, so they directly support war with Iran – ALL of them. Okay, minus those that may have been at lunch or in the bathroom, but surely that wasn’t all of’em… probably not many at all. I will not give them the benefit of the doubt, they don’t deserve it, and it is dangerously naive, IMHO.

        • http://FreakoutNation.com Anomaly 100

          Thanks for reminding me how screwed we are;-)

        • Unknwos

          Iran doesn’t even want nukes. The IAEA document as no backing and it doesn’t make since that the Iranians would hire a Mexican drug cartel member to kill a Saudi ambassador on US soil! Did you know that Iran has a mandatory death penalty for drug trafficking.

      • http://www.facebook.com/RealisticPC Don McAdams

        Alright, last comment to add to this book I’ve written here. I did find a direct link to the amendment I’m talkin’ about on the Government Printing Office’s website if anyone cares to read it themselves. http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-2011-11-28/pdf/CREC-2011-11-28-pt1-PgS7912.pdf#page=22 .

      • David Loper

        You usually see those sort of numbers with a voice vote or when parts of a bill are procedural. The majority of this bill is to fund the troops. It’s the sticky bits that toss the Constitution on its ear that is the problem.

        • http://www.facebook.com/RealisticPC Don McAdams

          The increased sanctions on Iran are an act of war. The nerve of our government and President to encourage other countries to produce more oil to make up for the loss created by our sanctions is incredibly arrogant, not to mention that We aren’t supposed to be telling the rest of the world what to do. While I agree I was going overboard in explaining the details of this last night, and sanctions on Iran are nothing new unfortunately, this is just as significant as the rest of NDAA. What happens when Ahmadinejad gets pissed and starts funding others more and working harder against US? We’ll have a 6th or 7th country to add to the list of places we’re currently bombing. Time to overthrow another regime? No, this is not insignificant, IMHO, nor is the fact that it passed 100-0. The unanimous consent is standard procedure, but they can’t do that with nobody in the room. I’m obviously not sure of the rule, there’s probably a minimum number of Senators required to proceed, but to assume that not one Senator objected because all the good ones were at lunch is giving them more than the benefit of the doubt, IMO. There’s not one of’em that isn’t ready for a US-friendly regime in Iran that will sell US cheap oil. Remember, Iran doesn’t owe money to the IMF or the World Bank and is therefor immune to our global financial enslavement. Like Gaddafi, Ahmadinejad can charge US whatever the Hell he wants for his oil, and our government doesn’t like that. Perhaps a few Senators missed this particular vote, but not one of’em that was there is against the idea of another alleged preventive war, which actually have been and probably always will be quests for more coal and oil.

    • Anonymous

      I’m proud to say Merkley and Wyden are both from my state of Oregon. However I believe they both voted for the first round of the Patriot Act, and I believe they both also voted for CISPA, or one of the other anti-privacy / censorship bills.

      Should we forgive them?

      I’m not sure.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mirela.monte Mirela Monte

    Only 7 Senators voted against the actual bill. The vote you’re presenting here is the final vote for the finished product, the adjustment between the House Bill H.R.1540 and the Senate Bill S.1867 before being sent to the President for signing.

    The vote of utmost importance was the vote on the actual bill, not this final adjustment. On that, only the following seven Senators voted against it:

    Coburn
    Harkin
    Lee
    Merkley
    Paul
    Sanders
    Wyden

    Incidentally, six of these senators also voted against The Patriot Act Extension earlier this year:

    Harkin
    Lee
    Merkley
    Paul
    Sanders
    Wyden

    These, my dear Americans, are the only Senators who work for us… all six of them!

    • Don McAdams

      I was thinking the same thing. When I read this, I remembered the 93-7 vote from Dec. 1st, too. However, upon looking for more vote details of that vote, I discovered 2 amendments to NDAA that passed with crazy majorities, 99-1 and 100-0. The 99-1 was good, “Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities, relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States.” Sen. Graham said on the floor that it would limit interrogations of Americans who support terrorism, but Sen. Kyl was the only one who voted against this amendment.

      http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?r112:1:./temp/~r112WyAmfg:e224443: (If the link doesn’t work, try copy/paste, and don’t forget the “:” at the end, some site’s truncate it for some reason, but it needs to be there). Scroll down to the paragraph that starts with “SA 1414. Mr. LEVIN (for Mr. Menendez (for himself and Mr. Kirk)) proposed an amendment to the bill S. 1867…”

      This amendment to NDAA passed with all 100 Senators voting yea, and is basically a list of more stringent sanctions on Iran.

      “Iran, is designated as of primary money laundering concern… because of the threat to government and financial institutions resulting from the illicit activities of the Government of Iran, including its pursuit of nuclear weapons, support for international terrorism, and efforts to deceive responsible financial institutions and evade sanctions.” Not too surprising until I read the part about “efforts to deceive RESPONSIBLE FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS?! Where are those? Are they referring to the Rothschild banks all over the world? The IMF? I almost lost my coffee lol!

      So, there’s a section authorizing the President to freeze all of Iran’s assets “in the United States, come within the United States, or are or come within the possession or control of a United States person.” And as if the Citizen’s United case wasn’t clear enough, Levin goes further to define a US person as, well a US person, but also as “an entity that is organized under the laws of the United States or jurisdiction within the United States.”

      There are exceptions for food, medicine, and medical devices, but the oil sanctions are the core. The goal is to stop the whole world from buying oil from Iran. “The President shall… conduct outreach to petroleum-producing countries to encourage those countries to increase their output of crude oil to ensure there is a sufficient supply,,, from countries other than Iran and to minimize any impact on the price of oil resulting from the imposition of sanctions under this section.”

      If Iran were really capable of attacking US, I’d say get ready for war. This is, at the least, 100% approval from ALL of our worthless Senate congresscritters to start the war with not only US citizens, but also explicitly Iran. It’s all about the oil, they pose no real threat to US, probably not Israel neither.

      My conclusion would be that there are NO Senators who work for US, but I’m left wondering why these 7 would vote for the amendment but against the bill itself. Regardless, these 6 get a pass this time, the rest need tried for treason, because the 93 that voted for it last time may not have gotten a chance to recant – it could’ve passed the House as is and went straight to Obomber’s desk – and Coburn needs to pay for the unPatriot Act vote (thanx for connecting the 2 votes, extremely relevant IMO). Now to examine the House votes and hold them accountable, and Obomber too if he signs this pos bill – and he said he will, surprise surprise…

      • http://www.facebook.com/RealisticPC Don McAdams

        So, although 6 Senators are against the unPatriot Act and NDAA, ALL of’em are ready to go to war with Iran. This is a big deal to me (obviously lol) because I don’t believe that Ahmadinejad poses a real threat, and who are WE to say that Iran can’t develop nukes” – We’re the only ones who’ve ever used’em! Anyways, rights trampled, including those of foreign countries, the war on freedom, er I mean terror, rages on…

        • David Loper

          Amendment 1414 was done by UC (unanimous consent) meaning it can be added to the bill without an actual vote. If no Senator was there to refute the language or call for a roll call vote (for example they were at lunch at the time when the traitors were talking) they can easily add the portion to the bill with the clerk recording the vote as 100-0, unanimous. The finality of the bill is what is in question here and these 7 senators (3R 3D 1I) voted against it.

        • http://FreakoutNation.com Anomaly 100

          Thanks for reminding me how screwed we are;-)

        • Unknwos

          Iran doesn’t even want nukes. The IAEA document as no backing and it doesn’t make since that the Iranians would hire a Mexican drug cartel member to kill a Saudi ambassador on US soil! Did you know that Iran has a mandatory death penalty for drug trafficking.

      • http://www.facebook.com/RealisticPC Don McAdams

        Alright, last comment to add to this book I’ve written here. I did find a direct link to the amendment I’m talkin’ about on the Government Printing Office’s website if anyone cares to read it themselves. http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-2011-11-28/pdf/CREC-2011-11-28-pt1-PgS7912.pdf#page=22 .

      • David Loper

        You usually see those sort of numbers with a voice vote or when parts of a bill are procedural. The majority of this bill is to fund the troops. It’s the sticky bits that toss the Constitution on its ear that is the problem.

        • http://www.facebook.com/RealisticPC Don McAdams

          The increased sanctions on Iran are an act of war. The nerve of our government and President to encourage other countries to produce more oil to make up for the loss created by our sanctions is incredibly arrogant, not to mention that We aren’t supposed to be telling the rest of the world what to do. While I agree I was going overboard in explaining the details of this last night, and sanctions on Iran are nothing new unfortunately, this is just as significant as the rest of NDAA. What happens when Ahmadinejad gets pissed and starts funding others more and working harder against US? We’ll have a 6th or 7th country to add to the list of places we’re currently bombing. Time to overthrow another regime? No, this is not insignificant, IMHO, nor is the fact that it passed 100-0. The unanimous consent is standard procedure, but they can’t do that with nobody in the room. I’m obviously not sure of the rule, there’s probably a minimum number of Senators required to proceed, but to assume that not one Senator objected because all the good ones were at lunch is giving them more than the benefit of the doubt, IMO. There’s not one of’em that isn’t ready for a US-friendly regime in Iran that will sell US cheap oil. Remember, Iran doesn’t owe money to the IMF or the World Bank and is therefor immune to our global financial enslavement. Like Gaddafi, Ahmadinejad can charge US whatever the Hell he wants for his oil, and our government doesn’t like that. Perhaps a few Senators missed this particular vote, but not one of’em that was there is against the idea of another alleged preventive war, which actually have been and probably always will be quests for more coal and oil.

  • Monkeyweather8

    Incredible how one rarely sees Democrats and Republicans wholeheartedly agreeing on a subject, but they both support stripping the citizenry of the US of their rights under the Constitution and bill of Rights. How many of the evil 93 are up for re-election?

    • David Loper

      Incredible how one rarely sees Democrats, Republicans and Independents standing together as a minority to oppose this treachery. There are good people on both side of the aisle but they are outnumbered by the establishment elite. Perhaps the people can support and latch on to these last few patriots and they can reform their parties. This is my hope for the nation.

  • Monkeyweather8

    Incredible how one rarely sees Democrats and Republicans wholeheartedly agreeing on a subject, but they both support stripping the citizenry of the US of their rights under the Constitution and bill of Rights. How many of the evil 93 are up for re-election?

    • David Loper

      Incredible how one rarely sees Democrats, Republicans and Independents standing together as a minority to oppose this treachery. There are good people on both side of the aisle but they are outnumbered by the establishment elite. Perhaps the people can support and latch on to these last few patriots and they can reform their parties. This is my hope for the nation.

  • http://twitter.com/backstreetpoet robert stagemyer

    it is very disappointing to see so many Democrats vote for this bill. I have rarely been as disappointed in a President that I voted for as I am with Obama. I won’t vote for any of the nut case Republicans, and now I won’t vote for Obama…so if no third party candidate shows up…I won’t vote!

    • StillFightingFromAbroad

      Like you Robert (and others), I don’t plan to vote for any of the Republicans (unless I vote the Republican Primary to pick the easiest-to-defeat in the Generel Election). Increasingly I wonder if the Democrats could see a shake-up in a Primary or if there is any way to push aside Obama for another Democrat. Whether it be another Democrat or an Independent, it wouldn’t take a great candidate to best those in the field now.

      A lot of us voted for Obama as he didn’t appear to be as far right as Hillary (who is even more right-wing than Bill). But this really takes the cake. I’ve voted for both of my Democratic Senators who voted for this atrocity to keep even worse Republicans out. It’s going to be very hard to vote for them under any circumstances now.

      The last time I made a trip to Washington, D.C. (June 2007) I was in a meeting with both of my State Senators lobbying them to support habeas corpus rights. While they agreed to then, they didn’t learn. I haven’t been back to Washington, D.C. in recent years as I now vote, write, and fight for American freedom from the safety of a foreign Country that I now call home.

    • StillFightingFromAbroad

      Like you Robert (and others), I don’t plan to vote for any of the Republicans (unless I vote the Republican Primary to pick the easiest-to-defeat in the Generel Election). Increasingly I wonder if the Democrats could see a shake-up in a Primary or if there is any way to push aside Obama for another Democrat. Whether it be another Democrat or an Independent, it wouldn’t take a great candidate to best those in the field now.

      A lot of us voted for Obama as he didn’t appear to be as far right as Hillary (who is even more right-wing than Bill). But this really takes the cake. I’ve voted for both of my Democratic Senators who voted for this atrocity to keep even worse Republicans out. It’s going to be very hard to vote for them under any circumstances now.

      The last time I made a trip to Washington, D.C. (June 2007) I was in a meeting with both of my State Senators lobbying them to support habeas corpus rights. While they agreed to then, they didn’t learn. I haven’t been back to Washington, D.C. in recent years as I now vote, write, and fight for American freedom from the safety of a foreign Country that I now call home.

    • Rjfilm

      Ron Paul would be a third party candidate, Libertarian.

  • http://www.tearanny.com Christian Tearanny

    Manchin, you will be hearing from me… I called several times and was assured several times that you would be voting NAY. Lies and deceit.

  • http://www.tearanny.com Christian Tearanny

    Manchin, you will be hearing from me… I called several times and was assured several times that you would be voting NAY. Lies and deceit.

  • Anonymous

    RON PAUL 2012 OR IT’S ALL OVER! IF YOU DISAGREE WITH HIS ECONOMICS FINE BUT THE MAN IS THE ONLY ONE WHO DEFENDS YOUR HUMAN RIGHTS!

    • ProChoiceGrandma

      Unless you are a woman or an African American! Ron Paul is a misogynist and a racist.

      • Anonymous

        Provide evidence, thoughtless Fox news watcher.

        • Abraham

          I don’t know about his misogyny, but the record of Ron Paul’s racism is easy to find if you care to look for it. And I can assure you I never watch Fox News.

          • David Loper

            References please of anything directly attributable to RP.

          • Ferdilverdil

            Aside from 50+ newsletters he published under his own name? Even if he didn’t wite them, as he claimed, he had the final say on what was in them.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kx-Russell/1070253454 Kx Russell

            No there were a few months wroth over a 8-9 month period. Ben Swann on WXIX already did the research on it & represent the facts.

          • Paul Duncan

            “if you care to look for it.”
            Coward. The burden of proof is on YOU when you make a claim.

          • http://twitter.com/mattkump Matt Kump

            I’m not taking sides, as I don’t know much about it (not American), but some of his comments from the 90’s do seem pretty fucking racist.

            http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-chait/88421/ron-pauls-racism

          • http://www.facebook.com/RealisticPC Don McAdams

            He’s explained this a hundred times now. The media is only using this because he threatens the establishment / status quo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk7qiY-aoiQ

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kx-Russell/1070253454 Kx Russell

            they were not his comments but someone elses he disavowed.

          • Paulbot

            So these comments were published in his name, by his company, over a period of several years…

            And he says he had nothing to do with it.

            He’s either lying or completely incompetent.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kx-Russell/1070253454 Kx Russell

            His record of being a favorite of MLK supporters 7 the NAACP is all over the net too but you just not bother to listen.

        • ProChoiceGrandma

          Are you replying to ME? Fux Noise is the propaganda network for the GOP & Tea Party RWNJ.

          See my reply above to “mydogsays” for links.

        • Paulbot

          See the letters he’s had published over the past thirty years.

      • Anonymous

        Please provide verifiable sources for your claims.

        • ProChoiceGrandma

          “Ron Paul is a Huge Racist”
          http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/12/news-bulletin-ron-paul-is-a-huge-racist.html

          “Ron Paul’s Racist Newsletters”
          http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/ron-pauls-racist-newsletters-revealed/

          Ron Paul believes life begins at conception. He is anti-choice in all circumstances. So, while he spews “freedom” and “privacy” talking points, he believes that women do not have the right to privacy to make decisions regarding their own body.

          A zygote is not a person.
          http://tinyurl.com/6csj59t

          • http://www.facebook.com/RealisticPC Don McAdams

            From your first link, “His newsletter, which he wrote and edited for years.” The authors of the racist newsletters were NOT Ron Paul, simple fact check. Then it goes on to describe how the media isn’t addressing his racism. Hasn’t this writer seen the news? Fail #1

            The 2nd link states that “He has given no explanation, for how the racism entered his newsletter.” This link is from 2010, were they not paying attention in 2008 when Ron Paul DID give an explanation? Oh, that’s right, it didn’t coincide with their libel, so they chose to omit the truth. I especially love how this article claims that he admitted to writing the articles himself in ’96, then links to another shady source which only mentions a dozen other people’s supposed testimony that Paul had anything to do with this garbage.

            You have an issue with him being pro-life? Actually, life begins at conception, whether the fetus is a “person” or not I’ll leave to Webster’s to decide. However, we’re missing the point here. Although he is pro-life, he is also a Constitutionalist who believes that it’s not the federal government’s job to make a decision on abortion, and that it should be left up to the states. He’s only been saying this for about 40 years or so now, you think pro-choicers would get off his nuts by now. He’s said numerous times that even though he doesn’t agree with abortion, prohibiting it just pushes it underground making it more costly and dangerous. He is opposed to government paying for abortions, though, and I agree 100%.

            But no, people keep bringing up the same attacks on him, because what else is there to attack really? “Ron Paul wrote a bunch of racist newsletters, he wants to make abortions illegal.” Leftist propaganda fail.

            I think it was a comment on this page, but I think it’s best put like this, if there is ANYTHING that can be viewed negatively about this man or his policies it would be his financial plans simply because his bold budget plan is controversial, but there is no other candidate who believes in our civil rights and has consistently voted to protect them for decades.

            Do US all a favor, come back with budget plan grievances or something concrete, ’cause these easily debunked stories from dubious websites is crap – I feel dumber having read through them.

            In case you didn’t see this link above: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk7qiY-aoiQ

          • The_amphibian

            Rolling back Roe v Wade and reverting to state’s laws on reproductive rights is a step backward. I cannot support him on that alone.

          • http://www.facebook.com/RealisticPC Don McAdams

            The President can not reverse a Court decision, and the state’s already have the right to govern themselves on this issue because Congress and the President have never passed any laws on abortion. Ron Paul wants to keep it that way from my understanding. Every time a bill has went to the House to define when abortions are or are not legal, he has voted against it because it’s not the governments job. He will not make abortions legal, that would just create a new, dangerous black market – and those are his words…

          • mcr

            If all of your civil rights are gone via the Patriot Act and The NDAA and SOPA, then it is a moot point what your opinion is. You will not be allowed to express it! The only candidate is Ron Paul just based on his Liberty stance alone.

          • Demaris

            My mil is swayed by her abortion stance too. I keep trying to tell her people that don’t care about that it’s your money their seizing (MF Global), that you were in the wrong place at the wrong time and are not a terrorist (NDAA), that are crushing the middle class with their save the banks Ponzi shell game whle people increasinlgy can’t afford food aren’t going to give a rat’s patootie about what you think you deserve when you want an abortion. If they want to kill off your kindbecause they see that kids existence on a gain to their entitlements, they’ll gladly help you to it. If they see the cost as another prole drain on “their money” via taxes, guess what? Funding’s gonna get cut. That’s where we’re going so you’d better smarten up and vote for the one guy trying to stop this slide.

          • Demaris

            s/b because they see that kid’s existence as a drain on their entitlements

          • Demaris

            My mil is swayed by her abortion stance too. I keep trying to tell her people that don’t care about that it’s your money their seizing (MF Global), that you were in the wrong place at the wrong time and are not a terrorist (NDAA), that are crushing the middle class with their save the banks Ponzi shell game whle people increasinlgy can’t afford food aren’t going to give a rat’s patootie about what you think you deserve when you want an abortion. If they want to kill off your kindbecause they see that kids existence on a gain to their entitlements, they’ll gladly help you to it. If they see the cost as another prole drain on “their money” via taxes, guess what? Funding’s gonna get cut. That’s where we’re going so you’d better smarten up and vote for the one guy trying to stop this slide.

          • OpenYourEyes

            You’re a moron. Because that is the most important topic in all of politics. Poor poor people having to revert to state governance over abortion issues… If your state is not what your looking for, go to another. People like you deserve what we have been getting served here.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kx-Russell/1070253454 Kx Russell

            Having the Federal Govt handle its a violation of the Constitution. Having the states handle it is the right thing & a step back in the right direction.

          • Dblawton

            It’s not a choice. It’s a child. NO person has the right to take the life of another person. Sexual intercourse leads to pregnancy. Use protection, or face the responsibility of being a parent. I am no Ron Paul fan, but being pro-life does not make one a misogynist.

          • Dblawton

            A zygote? Nice term. Your link shows a sperm cell outside an egg. The heartbeat of a CHILD begins 18 days after conception. 18 days. Quite a difference. No matter how you try to perpetrate the lie, it amounts to the death of a child. Kinda like McDonalds……. over 50 Million killed since 1973! Sad……

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kx-Russell/1070253454 Kx Russell

            You are just a left wing stooge doing the bidding of your masters pretending to be a prochoice grandma when in fact nothing could be farther from he truth. You are just here to try & be an agent provocateur

          • usmcmailman

            Abortion is MURDER…………PERIOD !

      • sandor

        You’re an idiot, just shut your mouth.

        • ProChoiceGrandma

          FU

        • Dblawton

          wow…. nothing brings out the good manners like politics and religion, eh?

      • jay strongbow

        what big teeth you have grandma……

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AQMZ6C4O2IER3V6DKYCZFB2JKM Steve

        This discussion is not about abortion. It is about the NDAA and the indefinate detention of American citizens. How did we get off on abortion? This is why we are screwed. The left and the right can’t even get behind one issue when we agree. Ron Paul, along with his son Rand Paul both opposed the NDAA and they are misogynists and racists!?!? How screwed up is that?

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kx-Russell/1070253454 Kx Russell

        You are absolutely wrong on this & just pushing forth the party line to stop real change in this country. If you are against RP then you are against the Big Banks that control everything & enslave all of us.

      • usmcmailman

        BLO ME !

      • Sumhavefun

        Paulbot is exactly what his name implies a bot nothing but mis information to confuse the masses. Same as ProChoiceGrandma. All fiction no facts

  • theendbeganin1913

    RON PAUL 2012 OR IT’S ALL OVER! IF YOU DISAGREE WITH HIS ECONOMICS FINE BUT THE MAN IS THE ONLY ONE WHO DEFENDS YOUR HUMAN RIGHTS!

    • ProChoiceGrandma

      Unless you are a woman or an African American! Ron Paul is a misogynist and a racist.

      • omegax84

        Provide evidence, thoughtless Fox news watcher.

        • Abraham

          I don’t know about his misogyny, but the record of Ron Paul’s racism is easy to find if you care to look for it. And I can assure you I never watch Fox News.

          • David Loper

            References please of anything directly attributable to RP.

          • Ferdilverdil

            Aside from 50+ newsletters he published under his own name? Even if he didn’t wite them, as he claimed, he had the final say on what was in them.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kx-Russell/1070253454 Kx Russell

            No there were a few months wroth over a 8-9 month period. Ben Swann on WXIX already did the research on it & represent the facts.

          • Paul Duncan

            “if you care to look for it.”
            Coward. The burden of proof is on YOU when you make a claim.

          • http://twitter.com/kump Matt Kump?

            I’m not taking sides, as I don’t know much about it (not American), but some of his comments from the 90’s do seem pretty fucking racist.

            http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-chait/88421/ron-pauls-racism

          • http://www.facebook.com/RealisticPC Don McAdams

            He’s explained this a hundred times now. The media is only using this because he threatens the establishment / status quo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk7qiY-aoiQ

        • ProChoiceGrandma

          Are you replying to ME? Fux Noise is the propaganda network for the GOP & Tea Party RWNJ.

          See my reply above to “mydogsays” for links.

      • mydogsays

        Please provide verifiable sources for your claims.

        • ProChoiceGrandma

          “Ron Paul is a Huge Racist”
          http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/12/news-bulletin-ron-paul-is-a-huge-racist.html

          “Ron Paul’s Racist Newsletters”
          http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/ron-pauls-racist-newsletters-revealed/

          Ron Paul believes life begins at conception. He is anti-choice in all circumstances. So, while he spews “freedom” and “privacy” talking points, he believes that women do not have the right to privacy to make decisions regarding their own body.

          A zygote is not a person.
          http://tinyurl.com/6csj59t

          • http://www.facebook.com/RealisticPC Don McAdams

            From your first link, “His newsletter, which he wrote and edited for years.” The authors of the racist newsletters were NOT Ron Paul, simple fact check. Then it goes on to describe how the media isn’t addressing his racism. Hasn’t this writer seen the news? Fail #1

            The 2nd link states that “He has given no explanation, for how the racism entered his newsletter.” This link is from 2010, were they not paying attention in 2008 when Ron Paul DID give an explanation? Oh, that’s right, it didn’t coincide with their libel, so they chose to omit the truth. I especially love how this article claims that he admitted to writing the articles himself in ’96, then links to another shady source which only mentions a dozen other people’s supposed testimony that Paul had anything to do with this garbage.

            You have an issue with him being pro-life? Actually, life begins at conception, whether the fetus is a “person” or not I’ll leave to Webster’s to decide. However, we’re missing the point here. Although he is pro-life, he is also a Constitutionalist who believes that it’s not the federal government’s job to make a decision on abortion, and that it should be left up to the states. He’s only been saying this for about 40 years or so now, you think pro-choicers would get off his nuts by now. He’s said numerous times that even though he doesn’t agree with abortion, prohibiting it just pushes it underground making it more costly and dangerous. He is opposed to government paying for abortions, though, and I agree 100%.

            But no, people keep bringing up the same attacks on him, because what else is there to attack really? “Ron Paul wrote a bunch of racist newsletters, he wants to make abortions illegal.” Leftist propaganda fail.

            I think it was a comment on this page, but I think it’s best put like this, if there is ANYTHING that can be viewed negatively about this man or his policies it would be his financial plans simply because his bold budget plan is controversial, but there is no other candidate who believes in our civil rights and has consistently voted to protect them for decades.

            Do US all a favor, come back with budget plan grievances or something concrete, ’cause these easily debunked stories from dubious websites is crap – I feel dumber having read through them.

            In case you didn’t see this link above: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk7qiY-aoiQ

          • The_amphibian

            Rolling back Roe v Wade and reverting to state’s laws on reproductive rights is a step backward. I cannot support him on that alone.

          • http://www.facebook.com/RealisticPC Don McAdams

            The President can not reverse a Court decision, and the states already have the right to govern themselves on this issue because Congress and the President have never passed any laws on abortion. Ron Paul wants to keep it that way from my understanding. Every time a bill has went to the House to define when abortions are or are not legal, he has voted against it because it’s not the federal government’s job. He will not make abortions illegal, that would just create a new, dangerous black market – and those are his words… So your concerns are unwarranted, insubstantial, and misguided – I would guess because of the mainstream leftist propaganda machine.

          • OpenYourEyes

            You’re a moron. Because that is the most important topic in all of politics. Poor poor people having to revert to state governance over abortion issues… If your state is not what your looking for, go to another. People like you deserve what we have been getting served here.

          • Dblawton

            It’s not a choice. It’s a child. NO person has the right to take the life of another person. Sexual intercourse leads to pregnancy. Use protection, or face the responsibility of being a parent. I am no Ron Paul fan, but being pro-life does not make one a misogynist.

          • usmcmailman

            Abortion is MURDER…………PERIOD !

      • sandor

        You’re an idiot, just shut your mouth.

        • Dblawton

          wow…. nothing brings out the good manners like politics and religion, eh?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AQMZ6C4O2IER3V6DKYCZFB2JKM Steve

        This discussion is not about abortion. It is about the NDAA and the indefinate detention of American citizens. How did we get off on abortion? This is why we are screwed. The left and the right can’t even get behind one issue when we agree. Ron Paul, along with his son Rand Paul both opposed the NDAA and they are misogynists and racists!?!? How screwed up is that?

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kx-Russell/1070253454 Kx Russell

        You are absolutely wrong on this & just pushing forth the party line to stop real change in this country. If you are against RP then you are against the Big Banks that control everything & enslave all of us.

      • usmcmailman

        BLO ME !

      • Sumhavefun

        Paulbot is exactly what his name implies a bot nothing but mis information to confuse the masses. Same as ProChoiceGrandma. All fiction no facts

  • Anonymous

    Blumenthal and Liebermann you pieces of dirty corrupt shite..

  • the616kid

    Blumenthal and Liebermann you pieces of dirty corrupt shite..

  • David Loper

    7

    That is the number of Senators that opposed this piece of crap legislation that tears up the 5th, 6th, some of the 7th, and damages the 8th amendments to the constitution.

    These are the good guys. Everyone else is a traitor to their oaths.

    Thomas Coburn (R-Oklahoma)
    Thomas Harken (D-Iowa)
    Mike Lee (R-Utah)
    Jeff Merkley (D-Oregon)
    Rand Paul (R-Kentucky)
    Bernard Sanders (I-Vermont)
    Ron Wyden (D-Oregon)

  • David Loper

    7

    That is the number of Senators that opposed this piece of crap legislation that tears up the 5th, 6th, some of the 7th, and damages the 8th amendments to the constitution.

    These are the good guys. Everyone else is a traitor to their oaths.

    Thomas Coburn (R-Oklahoma)
    Thomas Harken (D-Iowa)
    Mike Lee (R-Utah)
    Jeff Merkley (D-Oregon)
    Rand Paul (R-Kentucky)
    Bernard Sanders (I-Vermont)
    Ron Wyden (D-Oregon)

  • Xxjaxgalxx

    Why does this say Sen Al Franken voted AGAINST the bill ?

    http://blog.alfranken.com/2011/12/17/minnpost-franken-votes-against-defense-policy-bill/

    • http://www.facebook.com/RealisticPC Don McAdams

      Umm, he was one of the 13 listed above that voted Nay… From your link, “Sen. Al Franken voted against a defense policy and funding bill Thursday… Franken voted for the original Senate defense bill and said Thursday that he’d hoped the detention provisions would be changed significantly.” I’m guessing that the detention provisions weren’t to his likings.

  • Xxjaxgalxx

    Why does this say Sen Al Franken voted AGAINST the bill ?

    http://blog.alfranken.com/2011/12/17/minnpost-franken-votes-against-defense-policy-bill/

    • http://www.facebook.com/RealisticPC Don McAdams

      Umm, he was one of the 13 listed above that voted Nay… From your link, “Sen. Al Franken voted against a defense policy and funding bill Thursday… Franken voted for the original Senate defense bill and said Thursday that he’d hoped the detention provisions would be changed significantly.” I’m guessing that the detention provisions weren’t to his likings.

  • Hiloguide

    It’s 99% vs 1%! Now, who should surrender? Stop accepting to do the 1% dirty work and change will prevail :)

  • Hiloguide

    It’s 99% vs 1%! Now, who should surrender? Stop accepting to do the 1% dirty work and change will prevail :)

  • Huraben

    All the Senators that voted YES should be thrown out of office ASAP!

    • Mason

      Try them for treason!

  • Huraben

    All the Senators that voted YES should be thrown out of office ASAP!

  • Htpalmer

    I am very, very disappointed my two senators(Gillibrand/Schumer voted for this terrible and damaging legislation. Are these fools being had once again by politics? They should be ashamed of themselves.

  • Htpalmer

    I am very, very disappointed my two senators(Gillibrand/Schumer voted for this terrible and damaging legislation. Are these fools being had once again by politics? They should be ashamed of themselves.

  • Anonymous

    The word “bipartisan” usually means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out.
    –GEORGE CARLIN

  • henrybowmanaz

    The word “bipartisan” usually means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out.
    –GEORGE CARLIN

  • Tsaskm

    Who did not vote is no material but the majority. The senate is one body and readily pretends that the vote is made in due process. Real patriots will walk out instead of voting when they know their votes do not work.

  • mb

    Here is the problem. You say Paul is a racist because you are told to believe he is. If so, is everyone who has muttered a remark against a law that forces one to accept a person no matter what into their business or organization a racist? Were some civil rights activists being racist or did they feel that in time economics would play a role in eliminating that. If so, if I were non-white the KKK would have to allow me into their group or if I were white the government would force the NAACP to allow me in. Or how about the Masons, they would have to let me join by government decree. What we are looking at here is there is only one person who has made it passed the Mainstream crap and presented himself as the only candidate who has voted against the wars, against big government, against this bill. I say Go Ron Paul! He has my vote.

  • Yyowza

    democracy has been forgotten about when corporate mobsters are allowed to threaten the lives and families our vulnerable elected officials if they dont follow thier commands and accept thier bribes. thank you

  • Tamillaz

    These 86 senators betrayed their oath to promote and defend our Constitution. At best they should be thrown out of office, at worst, you be the judge. How about a Saddam type exit ?

  • Rob

    Unemployment is just like walking away from it all. I say prosecute and jail them with lifelong prison sentences. It is much more appropriate for those 86 senators since they have all committed treason. So when they run for reelection, all of us shout out at them “Traitor, you should run for prison instead!”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Glenn-Stephens/896590471 Glenn Stephens

    Our Founding Fathers had great respect for John Locke. Indeed Jefferson called him one of the three greatest human beings.

    Locke’s Second Treatise lays out a simple test for determining whether your government has gone astray, ceased to be legitimate civil government, broke its contract, and can be resisted, if need be, violently.

    The test – whether the government is trying to get you total control over you. What more signals a desire and design to have total control over dissidents (no one seriously believed they will stop with terrorists) than giving the executive-branch military the power to judge, detain, and punish, without counsel, jury trial, charges, or speedy civilian trial.

    Put simply, they want to have their way with us. This puts us in a state of war with them and we can resist as we see fit. Our Founders would agree.

  • filmmakeridaho

    He’s coming

    Today as I read how a vote was taken
    and those I trusted have quickly forsaken
    The Constitution and Bill of Rights
    I won’t be sleeping too good tonight

    What happened to men who were once grand and noble?
    Did they give in to a plan , a new law made global?
    Is the idea of America, land of the free
    Not worthy of allegiance from those we need?

    Is money the God, that our leaders have chosen?
    Is the laws of our land, forever now frozen?
    And what is to come if America falls?
    Will there be no symbol of freedom at all?

    These words, as I write them, will anyone hear?
    I write them in spite of the blur from my tears
    Was freedom and hope just a myth born of flight?
    When ships searched for new land, escaping at night?

    Escaping the tyranny of Kings who held rule
    Who kept all the bounty, food, land and jewels
    Escaping to find freedom to be good Godly men
    Finding hope in America, a chance once again

    But now here again, the tyranny prevails
    Seems once again we’re at he end of a tale
    America, the land of freedom and hope
    the voice to express now hangs limp on a rope.

    We’re now being watched for signs of individuality
    They’ll arrest, take and test for signs of neutrality
    You’ll be taken away, if there’s a touch of unique
    Interrogated, for life, and for life you’ll be beat

    The New World Order has begun my fellow man
    You’re already an enemy if you’re an American
    Throw out your ideas, throw out your hope
    To the elite of destruction , we’re just useless dopes

    But I, am with faith as God has my trust
    When vengeance he brings, evil turns to rust
    And Jesus has given me the strength to persevere
    And now I know, Armageddon’s very near.

    So enjoy all your power, you beings of control
    Take down the statue of Liberty, put up Gestapo walls
    I can hear the trumpets, the horses on the run
    I will see the stars tonight, tomorrow I’ll see the sun

    Man was given freedom by an entity of love
    It doesn’t come from earth , it comes from high above
    You’ll try to keep the power but like the rest who’ve tried
    You’ll find that truth stands very tall, and evil tends to die.

    Your children may have money, land and food galore
    you think you’ve won the battle, but you’ve not yet seen the war
    It won’t come from the earthlings, it won’t come from a gun
    It’s God you’ve got to fear and he’s coming with his son

  • RUTHANN

    VOTE ALL 86 OUT OF OFFICE

  • maria vonstettina

    When I called Senator Schumer’s (D NY) office a few weeks ago, his staff told me that he did not vote or the bill. Now i see that he has done so. Was his staff misinformed, or were they trying to cover up ??

    • Anomaly100

      According to several sources, yes he did and so did Kirsten Gillibrand, much to my disappointment.

    • Anomaly100

      According to several sources, yes he did and so did Kirsten Gillibrand, much to my disappointment.

  • Jevans1

    The purpose of government is to protect liberty, when the government tries to do anything else (no matter how noble) it always threatens liberty. This NDAA and Patriot Act are a wakeup call to all Americans. Freedom or Tyranny? We must stand united on this! All great leaders have skeletons in their closet (Ghandi, MLK Jr., Kennedy, even Jesus) its what they stand for when it counts that matters, not whether you can find a flaw. It we can’t stand together against NDAA then we get what we deserve!

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JKLLPVKKSWYRHLZH3LDQMZRW6A dean

    Damn Idiots voting YEA!

  • Pie Oh Pah1031

    Yeah, Ben Cardin Thank you for your Nay.

  • Pie Oh Pah1031

    Yeah, Ben Cardin Thank you for your Nay.

  • http://twitter.com/Rose4Justice Rose Colombo

    How is it that they can shred the U.S. Constitution – “due process of law” = the 4th Amendment – and call themselves Representatives of the American people and the Constitution and the United States of America – when they voted against freedom and liberty – and Americans have to pay them to vote against the will of the majority of the people who they have left vulnerable without protection from tyranny, legal abuses, injustices on U.S. soil? Yet, they provide Miranda Rights and disclose the charges, provide a lawyer, and a trial for the captured RADICALS from the Middle East involved in 911 and other crimes against America, as well as Fort Hood – reduce the charges – and require Americans to provide them 110% – U.S. 4th Amendment rights known as “Due Process of Law” – How is that?

    • ILUVUSA2

      Exactly, Rose.

  • http://www.facebook.com/anita.nunn1 Anita Hallmark Nunn

    I SEE BOTH OF MY SENATORS FROM AR. VOTED YES TO PASS THAT BILL. ONE IS A DEMOCRAT. ONE IS A REP. I WONDER IF WE CAN COUNT ON THEM FOR HELP IF OBAMA’S REAL REASON FOR PASSING THIS LAW TO GET RID OF EVERYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH HIM COMES TO PASS AND HE LOCKS ALL OF US UP IN GITMO??????????//

    • ILUVUSA2

      Why wonder? Your skepticism should tell you something. This is bad legislation and will be the symptom of the downfall of this once-great society.

  • http://www.facebook.com/anita.nunn1 Anita Hallmark Nunn

    I SEE BOTH OF MY SENATORS FROM AR. VOTED YES TO PASS THAT BILL. ONE IS A DEMOCRAT. ONE IS A REP. I WONDER IF WE CAN COUNT ON THEM FOR HELP IF OBAMA’S REAL REASON FOR PASSING THIS LAW TO GET RID OF EVERYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH HIM COMES TO PASS AND HE LOCKS ALL OF US UP IN GITMO??????????//

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EFVVN4ILMQ42UE3ZEKHNDTZ3J4 Jim F.

    Why is Allen West’s name missing?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EFVVN4ILMQ42UE3ZEKHNDTZ3J4 Jim F.

    Jerome Corsi: Breitbart’s Last Contact Was With Sheriff Joe Arpaio

    http://www.infowars.com/jerome-corsi-breitbart%e2%80%99s-last-contact-was-with-sheriff-joe-arpaio/

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EFVVN4ILMQ42UE3ZEKHNDTZ3J4 Jim F.

    Jerome Corsi: Breitbart’s Last Contact Was With Sheriff Joe Arpaio

    http://www.infowars.com/jerome-corsi-breitbart%e2%80%99s-last-contact-was-with-sheriff-joe-arpaio/

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Wallace/100003519161054 Richard Wallace

    Anyone that signed NDAA bill I would call a traitor. This Gestapo Law is how
    Hitler got into power. First obamacare, then NDAA ,what is next will we loose our
    freedom of press and speech. Our News media is already controled. I think obama wants complete government control, looks that way to me

  • freedomchamps

    The government of the United States needs to be overthrown. The Occupy protests have a very good reason to be protesting.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WXS4ZP3E4FNODG7LJGNAIXPQZU Paul

    What is going on?

    12/31/2011 – NDAA (National Defense Authorization Act) allows military to arrest you without due process.

    2/2012 – FAA Act signed into law by Presdent authorizes 30,000 drones to conduct surveillance over our homes

    3/15/2012 – President signs into law HR 347 making free speech and peaceful protest a felony

    3/16/2012 – Executive Order Nation Defense Resources Preparedness updates the powers of President to take control under Marshal Law

    • usmcmailman

      Actually it’s Martial Law.

    • usmcmailman

      Actually it’s Martial Law.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Barbara-Tranquillo/100000800625043 Barbara Tranquillo

    Toomey and Casey of Pa,we will not forgive,we will not forget .

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Barbara-Tranquillo/100000800625043 Barbara Tranquillo

    Toomey and Casey of Pa,we will not forgive,we will not forget .

  • Melisma1111

    If there’s no GREAT OUT CRY from the American citizens we may all be in Fema concentration camps or even worst. We’re trusting our freedom and our very lives to globalist who are already power hungry! Don’t take this sitting down! RISE UP America! WAKE UP!

  • Melisma1111

    If there’s no GREAT OUT CRY from the American citizens we may all be in Fema concentration camps or even worst. We’re trusting our freedom and our very lives to globalist who are already power hungry! Don’t take this sitting down! RISE UP America! WAKE UP!

  • ThinkSkeptic

    No, they need to be tried for treason and imprisoned for life

    • Rjfilm

      I think the punishment for treason is death!

  • usmcmailman

    All 86 of these pukes should be removed from office!

  • lucasg7

    Dick Durbin voted for it too, Why is he not on this list?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Morin/100002885440230 David Morin

    THE ONES WHO VOTED FOR IT SHOULD BE HELD FOR TREASON AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION FOR BREACH OF THEIR SWORN OATHS, AND REMOVED/ARRESTED.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Morin/100002885440230 David Morin

    ALL THIS bBILL AND THE PATRIOT ACT DOES, IS LAYS DOWN A FOUNDATION TO REMOVE THE CONSTITUTION AND ALL OUR FREEDONS TO A SOCIALIST ONE, IN 3 MONTHS THIS JUST MIGHT BE THE SOCIAL STATES OF AMERICA, IF YOU DONT THINK SO, THEN WHY HAS CONGRESS NOT REMOVED THE PRESIDENT FROM OFFICE THIS BILL AND THE PATRIOT ACT BILL WILL THROW ALL US IN FEMA CAMP, (concentration caps like aswitch) NEVER TO SEE DAYLIGHT AGAIN, AND ALL YOUR CHILDERN RE EDUCATED AS SOCIALISTS LIKE THE HITLER YOUTH, THINK I’M KIDDING, EVERYBODY WHO VOTED FOR OBAMA IN 08 GOT SUCKED INTO THE VACCUME CLEANER OF THE BIG FUCKIN LIE NAMED OBAMA, AS FOR HIS BIRTH CERT, IT WAS A FORGED DOCUMENT, EBERY SENATOR IN CONGRESS KNOWS IT, THE THING IS ONLINE, HE NEVER SUBMITTED A BIRTH CERTIFICATE TO THE JUSTICES BY HAND IN PERSON ON A PIECE OF PAPER, THATS LIKE PRINTING OUT MONEY ON YOUR COMPUTER AND CONVINCING EVERYONE ITS REAL!

    I LOVE MY COUNTRY FROM SEA TO SHINING SEA, I’LL BE DAMNED IF I LET ANYONE DICTATE THEIR SOCIALIST AGENDA ON ME, NOT WITHOUT A FIGHT, THATS A FIGHT WITH GUNS NOT BY WORDS! THATS WHAT IT MEANS TO BE AMERICAN, YOU BAD MOUTH MY COUNTRY IN MY FACE, I’LL KNOCK YOU DOWN AND POUND THE SHIT OUT OF YOU. I’M NOT CRAZY, I’M AMERICAN. ANOTHER THING, TO BE AN AMERICAN, IF BOTH PARENTS WERE BORN IN THE USA OR CAME HERE AS AN IMMIGRANT AND WENT TO ELLIS ISLAND TO BECOME A CITIZEN, YOUR AN AMERICAN, IF YOU CAME HERE ILLEGALLY AND YOU AND YOUR HUSBAND ARE BOTH ILLEGAL STATUS, YOUR CHILD IS BORN IN AMERICA, THE KID IS ILLEGAL ALSO. TWO WRONGS DONT EQUAL ONE RIGHT.

  • John

    Any American who is so tried to party politics that he/she cannot see the tremendous impact this bill will have on our lives is closed minded. This bill made me a one-issue voter. Nothing other than foreseen war with Iran comes close the the weight of this issue. Not gay marriage; not tax reform; not even banking corruption comes close when we citizens have to rely on this and future presidents’ good character for the bill to be used with the right amount of discretion. All of us, Republicans and Democrats, have to stand should to shoulder and let Congress know who’s accountable to whom

  • http://www.facebook.com/dozerfleetprod David Stiefel

    Sadly, I can’t get rid of Levin yet. But I’d be glad to help get rid of Stabenow.

  • vicki Entsminger

    i think its the same number of senators that was kissing h.clintons butt instead of asking the hard questions and its also a list of the ones that need replaced next term.

  • Tsaskm

    Who did not vote is no material but the majority. The senate is one body and readily pretends that the vote is made in due process. Real patriots will walk out instead of voting when they know their votes do not work.

  • Yyowza

    democracy has been forgotten about when corporate mobsters are allowed to threaten the lives and families our vulnerable elected officials if they dont follow thier commands and accept thier bribes. thank you

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Glenn-Stephens/896590471 Glenn Stephens

    Our Founding Fathers had great respect for John Locke. Indeed Jefferson called him one of the three greatest human beings.

    Locke’s Second Treatise lays out a simple test for determining whether your government has gone astray, ceased to be legitimate civil government, broke its contract, and can be resisted, if need be, violently.

    The test – whether the government is trying to get you total control over you. What more signals a desire and design to have total control over dissidents (no one seriously believed they will stop with terrorists) than giving the executive-branch military the power to judge, detain, and punish, without counsel, jury trial, charges, or speedy civilian trial.

    Put simply, they want to have their way with us. This puts us in a state of war with them and we can resist as we see fit. Our Founders would agree.

  • Jevans1

    The purpose of government is to protect liberty, when the government tries to do anything else (no matter how noble) it always threatens liberty. This NDAA and Patriot Act are a wakeup call to all Americans. Freedom or Tyranny? We must stand united on this! All great leaders have skeletons in their closet (Ghandi, MLK Jr., Kennedy, even Jesus) its what they stand for when it counts that matters, not whether you can find a flaw. It we can’t stand together against NDAA then we get what we deserve!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JKLLPVKKSWYRHLZH3LDQMZRW6A dean

    Damn Idiots voting YEA!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EFVVN4ILMQ42UE3ZEKHNDTZ3J4 Jim F.

    Why is Allen West’s name missing?

  • freedomchamps

    The government of the United States needs to be overthrown. The Occupy protests have a very good reason to be protesting.