Rick Santorum: We go to Church, they don’t, we are the party that believes in values

Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum while talking with Bill Cunningham on WLW in Cincinatti, said, “Look at every race that’s been run over the past forty, thirty years, and you will see a divide between George Bush and Al Gore, between George Bush and John Kerry, between John McCain and Barack Obama, between people who go to church and people who don’t.” Santorum went on to say, “We are the party that believe in values.” Going to church does not make one a Christian or a person of values but far be it for reality to get in the way of talking points.

 

With all of the obvious deflection used in recent days in an attempt to take our minds off of the recovering economy and because Republicans have no viable candidate to run against President Obama, one talking point is still being echoed. Sadly.

The President’s supposed ‘war on religion’ is absurd and with the resurrection of birtherism very recently rearing its crazy head, perhaps they’re both linked. How can a Kenyan socialist, Marxist, Maoist, Usurper be a Christian after all?

It’s obvious each candidate is trying to out-Conservative the other — now they’re trying to out-church us utilizing that all too familiar stereotypical broad paintbrush.

President Rick Santorum states, “We are the party that believe in values.”

 

I’ve had a change of heart; perhaps there is a war on religion, as long as it’s not a Republican’s religion, the war is on but I suggest the right wing fired the first shot in this battle.

By values, Santorum must mean to demonize an entire group of people which historically is his forte.

FYI: I am a proud leftist Christian who accepts and embraces every race, sex and religion. Santorum should try accepting others sometime.

 

  • Humorsavestheday

    Just like you are accepting him. Lead by example.

  • Matthew Graybosch

    The values in which I believe are not served by church attendance, but by living a life of eternal hostility to every form of tyranny of the human mind — especially Christianity.

    • diegoddie

      I agree. Christianity is the worst thing that’s ever happened in the history of the world. My 3-year-old son was struck and killed by a drunk driver, but I was able to smile at the funeral because I knew he would never have to run the risk of looking at a Bible.

      • Matthew Graybosch

        The drunk who killed your brat probably thought he could drive since God would look after him.

  • Matthew Graybosch

    The values in which I believe are not served by church attendance, but by living a life of eternal hostility to every form of tyranny of the human mind — especially Christianity.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1068748056 Eric Funston

    I am also a proud leftist Christian who accepts and embraces every race, sex and religion. I’m also a priest.

    • Anomaly100

      How refreshing!

    • Erik

      Same here.

    • Erik

      Same here.

    • http://twitter.com/cougarclaws Chris

      I had sex that you’ll never embrace a couple days ago. Felt good man.

      • Alvin

        How the hell do you know what he embraces?

    • http://twitter.com/cougarclaws Chris Smink

      I had sex that you’ll never embrace a couple days ago. Felt good man.

      • Alvin

        How the hell do you know what he embraces?

    • WriterWriter1

      Yeah, I bet you accept all ‘races’ (a political construct with no biological basis), sexes (as long as they are young and unconfirmed) and religions…

      Do you also accept the complete lack of historicity of the bible, the FACT that christ NEVER existed, the complete and utter lack of evidence and facts for any gods?

      The fact that you are a priest does not recommend you for anything beyond you belong to a group that is rife – end-to-end – with child rapists and liars, and with those who are willing to do anything they must to hide that fact, and that you are willing, able and desperate to refuse all facts that PROVE your ‘religion’ and all others are means of suffocating humans, inflicting social control and instilling fear – and penises – in children.

      Fully disgusting.
      http://stupid-files.blogspot.com/2011/12/marys-boychild-biological-impossibility.html

      • SupportOurTroops2012

        Collectivism (in all of its facets) is an ugly form of judgmental slander with no basis. Just because he is a priest does not necessarily make him one of the priests who hasn’t acted in a moral and giving manner throughout his life. Just because some African-Americans steal doesn’t mean we all steal, etc. Regardless of what “side” you claim to be on, attacking others because of stereotypes (with or without any exemplary basis in reality) is just plain dumb and extremely pathetic. It is the basis for all bigotry, racism, sexism, and the continuation of perpetual misunderstanding and hate-mongering. Collectivism has no place in an enlightened society. Neither do high horses, for that matter.

        • http://profiles.google.com/writerwriter1 Writer Writer

          Until the non-guilty speak out against the VERY guilty in their ranks, the pope included, I stand by my comments.

      • Crestalmyth

        I can, to some degree, understand frustration with the non-guilty keeping their mouths shut about the guilty, but this is getting us nowhere. Try to make sure you’re making a valid argument and not just stroking your ego – this is the kind of bigotry we’re trying to prevent. This kind of athiest/Christian division is what gets people beaten up, previously-held beliefs reinforced, “Christian” millionaires elected as leaders and, ultimately, kids abused. And althought it might sound like it, but I’m certainly no Christian. I’m as gnostic as they come.

        These kinds of posts are what’s making me start to agree with the right-wingers’ comments on the war on religion. It’s not a political war between leaders, but more of a civil war being waged among us petty rabble.

    • WriterWriter1

      Yeah, I bet you accept all ‘races’ (a political construct with no biological basis), sexes (as long as they are young and unconfirmed) and religions…

      Do you also accept the complete lack of historicity of the bible, the FACT that christ NEVER existed, the complete and utter lack of evidence and facts for any gods?

      The fact that you are a priest does not recommend you for anything beyond you belong to a group that is rife – end-to-end – with child rapists and liars, and with those who are willing to do anything they must to hide that fact, and that you are willing, able and desperate to refuse all facts that PROVE your ‘religion’ and all others are means of suffocating humans, inflicting social control and instilling fear – and penises – in children.

      Fully disgusting.
      http://stupid-files.blogspot.com/2011/12/marys-boychild-biological-impossibility.html

  • klhayes

    The priests who abused children LED masses, does that mean they have the right values?

    • http://profiles.google.com/writerwriter1 Writer Writer

      So you know, priests do not actually believe what they do is wrong. The reason for that is:
      Children are baptised at birth (in the catholic tradition), purifying them from their sinful natures (how sick is that?). Between the time they are baptised and their confirmations, they are considered sinless because they have not yet reached the age of reason (which is signified by the confirmation).

      So, if you’re a priest, you can rape children and then confess, having done no damage to the soul of the baptised but not yet confirmed – and therefore pure – child.

      Sick hey?

  • Jeryelliott

    “Values” is an extremely broad and open term. Let’s broach Godwin’s Law right now and state clearly that Hitler and the Nazis had “values”. Their own and ones that I certainly do not and never would agree with …. but “values” they believed in.

    • WriterWriter1

      Based absolutely and overtly on the bible as per Catholicism.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1542591637 Laura Lokken

    I, too, am a proud leftist Christian who accepts and embraces every race, sex, and religion. I also except people in the LGBT community. I am a Christian education director for the United Church of Christ.

  • yeahyeahwhtever

    The “War on Religion” (WoR) serves two purposes:
    1. Political. The WoR is meant to get the votes of Catholic swing voters.
    2. Church. The US Catholic Bishops are partnering with the most extreme wing of the anti-reproductive health car Christian Evangelicals in an attempt to show that they represent Christianity, and that they should be the voice to guide a Christian nation.

    • WriterWriter1

      The ‘war’ on religion is a myth.

      It is a term used by the ‘religious’ any and every time the utter fallibility of their BS is exposed.

  • Gem

    “Just going to church doesn’t make you a Christian any more than standing in your garage makes you a car.”
    ? G.K. Chesterton

  • R_sedwick

    “Really, Frothy??? I beg to differ in a big way. Just going to church doesn’t mean a damn thing! Carry on, keep making an ass out of yourself and your so-called Grand Old Party! Ha! Ha!”

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=591058715 Thomas Farrell

    “Look at every race that’s been run over the past forty, thirty years, and you will see a divide between George Bush and Al Gore, between George Bush and John Kerry, between John McCain and Barack Obama, between people who go to church and people who don’t.” – Santorum

    Hmm… time to do a little homework.

    Kennedy: Attended church weekly while President – reported to have tried to sneak into church so as not to receive special treatment.

    Johnson: Attended church two to three times a week while President.

    Nixon: Hosted preachers to give monthly church service for him in the White House while President.

    Ford: Episcopalian, probably attended church while in office, hard to find by Google.

    Carter: Attended church weekly and taught sunday school while President.

    Reagan: Did not attend church regularly while President.

    Bush Sr: Did not attend church regularly while President, claimed it would be disruptive to the church.

    Clinton: Attended church weekly while President, other members of his church said it wasn’t disruptive and they enjoyed having him there.

    W Bush: Did not attend church regularly while President, claimed it would be disruptive to the church.

    John Kerry: Is Catholic, attended church regularly until the bishop announced he was unwelcome, which was done conspicuously publicly during the presidential campaign. May be attending another church.

    Obama: Attended church weekly prior to presidential campaign, attends church intermittently now.

    Nope, Santorum is entirely wrong as usual.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Elizabeth-Cox/1552353972 Elizabeth Cox

    “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.” Matthew 6:5-6 (Instructions by Jesus.)

    “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee stood up and prayed about himself: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men–robbers, evildoers, adulterers–or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’ “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’ “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.” Luke 18:10-14 (Parable that Jesus told)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Elizabeth-Cox/1552353972 Elizabeth Cox

    “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.” Matthew 6:5-6 (Instructions by Jesus.)

    “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee stood up and prayed about himself: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men–robbers, evildoers, adulterers–or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’ “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’ “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.” Luke 18:10-14 (Parable that Jesus told)

  • Lacentratoni

    I don’t know if I can get anymore annoyed with anyone that Santorum. Does he think he has a lock on values…I am a Progressive/Liberal born again Christian and I am not a Republican.

  • bobsyeruncle

    forty,thirty years ago? Bus v.Gore? that was 12 years ago…is this guy so delusional he can’t even tell time?

    I guess when you believe the Earth is 4000yrs old, and people can live to be 900, time is kind of hard to figure out

  • bobsyeruncle

    forty,thirty years ago? Bus v.Gore? that was 12 years ago…is this guy so delusional he can’t even tell time?

    I guess when you believe the Earth is 4000yrs old, and people can live to be 900, time is kind of hard to figure out

  • Howard Brazee

    Being Righteous doesn’t make one a Christian. Jesus Christ fought the Righteous. Jesus Christ gave us the example that it is better to be good.

  • Rif03k2003

    On the contrary, YOU are NOT a Christian if you accept any sex and religion. TRUE Christians are not to associate themselves with ungodly people. You are supposed to love all and walk in Christ’s way, but not be acceptant or tolerant of others’ immoral lifestyle.

    • http://profiles.google.com/writerwriter1 Writer Writer

      Immorality being a moving target, however, for christians, given they shave the sides of their faces, mix their fabrics, etc, etc…

  • Dean_G

    What a dousche!

  • http://gplus.to/novenator novenator

    He is a spokesman for the American Taliban.

  • WriterWriter1

    Really? Values? Does Santorum mean biblical value like those outlined in Deuteronomy and Leviticus? Y’know, the part where a woman who is raped must marry her attacker? Or the one where you’re supposed to let the townspeople stone your ‘unruly’ children? Or the bible that tells us that god is responsible for genocide and murders numbering over 2.5 million? Or the bible that not only encourages slavery, expects it? THAT church?

    SCREW YOU Santorum. Those are not ‘values.’

  • Utilityprince

    Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. Ron Paul is the only candidate with a difference. All the rest, Republican and Democrat alike, are part of the problem in the U.S.A., along with the corporate lobbyists who own them.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Thomas-Zell/31110369 Thomas Zell

    He’s not a good catholic at all, he’s a climate change denier. He ignores parts of church doctrine that are politically inconvenient.

    • http://profiles.google.com/writerwriter1 Writer Writer

      As do ALL religious people. If you’re a christian and male and you shave, you’re cherry picking yourself.

  • SupportOurTroops2012

    I find it sad that articles like this (originating from stupid statements like the ones Santorum has made) seem to only bring out two types of folks to comment: Those Christians who want to defend the fact that they are not like Santorum (which only makes sense, and I would do the same thing)…and the folks who feel it is now their duty to write hateful things about Christianity–as if this idiot speaks for all Christians. He doesn’t even speak for 10% of Christians, I’d wager (and even if he did, it would still be irrelevant to my point). People are people, and they shouldn’t EVER all be lumped into groups to be deified or crucified. Period.

    If 51 out of 100 individuals in a particular ethnic group choose to steal and 49 don’t, do you have the right to think that this group has a propensity to steal? Well, yes, that’s your right, if you want to be an idiot. Now, on to the real question: Would that point of view be justified by logic and reason and founded in a rudimentary understanding of individualism and free will? Well, of course not. What if it’s 90 out of 100 folks in an ethnic group? Who’s critically thinking out there? :)

    I am not a Christian. I am not an Atheist. But I have tons of friends who are both. I am not Caucasian nor Asian…I am not a male…I have a graduate degree, and I have friends who didn’t have the opportunity to finish high school. I think you get my drift. Collectivism in all its forms is an extremely immature view of humanity and its history (much less, its future). So, to those who want to attack others (regardless of who is perceived to have thrown the first stone): Grow up already. Live and let live–regardless of your perspective, everyone has the right to choose how and what to think and how to live life, provided that it doesn’t negatively impact the lives of others (and being annoyed with someone else’s lifestyle doesn’t count as “negative impact”…in those cases, you just need a good healthly dose of MYOB.).

    P.S. – If you want to rail on how Christianity–all big and bad and by itself (ancient or modern and regardless of any knowledge on human nature) is THE scourge of humanity–perhaps you should delve a little deeper than that…your understanding of history is just a wee bit thin, and you need to broaden your view. A very good (entertaining and vastly informative) novel to read: “Creation” by Gore Vidal. Start there and keep on going! You’ll be glad you understand Zoroastrianism, among other things. ;)

    • http://profiles.google.com/writerwriter1 Writer Writer

      Religion, not specifically christianity, is a problem. Blind adherence to any form of it or other dogmatism, is a problem. Believing in things that are demonstrably NOT real – and forming policy based on those things – is a problem.

      • guest

        The problem isn’t religion… the problem is people being so blind and stubborn with their own beliefs that they’re unable to even consider another point of view. Extremism on both sides is going to be the downfall of this country. If we want to survive as a great nation, we have to learn to get along. Christians, Muslims, atheists, agnostics… if we act like stubborn, petulant children, maybe we deserve to fall.

    • http://profiles.google.com/writerwriter1 Writer Writer

      Religion, not specifically christianity, is a problem. Blind adherence to any form of it or other dogmatism, is a problem. Believing in things that are demonstrably NOT real – and forming policy based on those things – is a problem.

  • Jjjj

    we need Ethics in government, NOT religion-

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RS2W5V2OVEEXI6PUPMI3FKRF7A ME

    What a jerk. Having values and NOT believing in god is more valuable than only being a moral person because you’re afraid of god. Being a good person just because it’s the right thing to do and not because you’re afraid of going to hell is a lot less self-serving and far more genuine.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RS2W5V2OVEEXI6PUPMI3FKRF7A ME

    And to be straight here, I’m not saying that all people that go to church either have any values or only have values because they’re afraid. Some are just good people for the sake of being decent people…. I’m just saying that Santorum’s sanctimonious reasons are less genuine than those of an atheist who is a humanist.

  • Fancy

    You are wrong Mr. Santorum. Democrats go to church too.

  • Humorsavestheday

    Just like you are accepting him. Lead by example.

  • Ohozzie

    It’s just this sort of comment that makes my teeth itch. I go to an ELCA church that is chocked full of liberal Christians. I was so proud of them when I realized that during the Kerry campaighn

  • Howard Brazee

    Being Righteous doesn’t make one a Christian. Jesus Christ fought the Righteous. Jesus Christ gave us the example that it is better to be good.

  • http://gplus.to/novenator novenator

    He is a spokesman for the American Taliban.

  • http://profiles.google.com/writerwriter1 Writer Writer

    Jesus is a character, not a reality. He NEVER existed and that is a fact. Irrefutable if you have even scratched the surface of research.

    As a deity, christ is a biological impossibility, as he is male.

    As a ‘god’ he’s only one of 25 or so with the exact MO.

    http://stupid-files.blogspot.com/2011/12/marys-boychild-biological-impossibility.html

    http://truth-saves.com/belief-vs-claims/

  • http://profiles.google.com/writerwriter1 Writer Writer

    Liberal christian is an oxymoron. Either you take the bible in full or you don’t. If you redact, it means that you don’t believe your own crap.
    http://truth-saves.com/belief-vs-claims/

  • Ohozzie

    I respectfully disagree. I take the Bible seriously. And being a Christian means caring about the poor and those in need. Sounds more like the liberals to me. But either way, to say that only the right goes to church is to deny a whole bunch of people on the left who do go to church as well.

  • http://profiles.google.com/writerwriter1 Writer Writer

    Really, you take the bible seriously do you? Then you campaign for women marrying their rapists, for killing the children of people who have different religions, for keeping slaves, for not mixing your fabrics or the plants in your fields or shaving the hair at the sides of your head? You support your “christ” when he says bring the unbelievers to him so he can kill them??

    You think a man can waive a wand (staff) and make an ocean part? You think a six hundred-year-old man can load ALL the worlds animals onto a wooden boat that is smaller than the Titanic was – and all the food and care they would need – and keep then on said boat, alive, for a year?

    You don’t have a clue what you think you believe.

    CHRIST is a CHARACTER. NOT a real person. Case in point, he disappeared from the time he was 12 to 20 and PAUL had NO clue about him.

    HE IS MADE UP.

    http://www.godlessgeeks.com/JesusExist.htm
    http://truth-saves.com/belief-vs-claims/

  • Neozj134

    I dont think he is made up, but I think he was used as a symbol for people wanting to move away from the Jewish tradition. As like all the stories of the bible (and Jesus), they are merely a way to help us lead our lives and to be better human beings. Unfortunately, history reads into the bible and takes it too literally, even though it has been written and rewritten and estimated 80 times over time. People need to understand where the line is drawn – at being a good person, respecting your fellow man, and be accepting of others.

    Santorum believes none of these things, except everyone in america who isnt a christian is going to burn in hell. what a hack!

  • Ohozzie

    It’s amazing how fundamentalist some atheists are. They insist you take a fundamentalist view of Christianity or you are not a real Christian. I’ve been down that road before. I will approach my faith in my own way and will not be ruled by either you or your fundamentalist counterparts.

  • Ohozzie

    I suspect that he thinks I’m going to hell as well. Eh, so be it. Thank you for your post. I found it interesting. Out of curiousity, do you believe in a historical Jesus, putting aside whether or not he was the son of God for a moment?