A Second former LAPD officer releases a manifesto

Christopher Dorner is creating quite a firestorm of attention directed toward the Los Angles Police Department, and now his efforts have doubled in another manifesto created by former LAPD Officer Joe Jones.

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In its entirety, it reads exactly (typos and grammatical errors included):

 

“My Former LAPD Officer Joe Jones MANIFESTO…

I know most of you who personally who me are in disbelief of the partial story I will tell today. A story that has been suppressed for about 18 years, But lives strong everyday of my life.

I without hesitation would like to send my condolences to the Victims who were lost and their families during this tragic situation. I would also like to send my condolences and well wishes to the many former and current Officers, as well as Citizen’s and their families who lost the lives and souls of loved one’s to the injustices of Police Corruption, Scandal, Lies, Deception and Brutality.

Unlike Former Officer Dorner, I fear dying; But I also fear living in a society where Innocent people are dying for no reason. A society where pain so great can be afflicted to people who have to desire to live right and treat people right and then be punished for doing right.

They say we all look alike. In very few cases this of course is true. But in most cases it is not. I feel a resemblance to Dorner, (See Photos) However several people who have no resemblance to Dorner have been shot due to the fear of what is taking place. I DO NOT WANT TO BE SHOT FOR CRIMES I DID NOT COMMIT!. Neither does anyone else.

To preface my story I will say this: Just like former Officer Christopher Dorner I used to smile a lot. I loved everyone. I was voted Friendliest Senior of my Sr. Class in High School. I always believed in the system and never got into any trouble. I loved hard and gave to all I could. After Joining the LAPD in 1989 I quickly found out that the world and society had major flaws. I had flaws as well for ever believing that our system of government was obligated to do the right thing. his is what I believed as a young Officer. Without going into major detail, I need you to first assume that I would not surface 16 years later with lies about a situation that has me with PTSD to this very day. The pain forces me to speak as I have yet to shake the Ill’s of my experience as an LAPD Officer. Of course I have moved on physically. But mentally and emotionally I still live with flaws.

I can’t go into re-living the emotions of what I went through so I will say this. I had my home viciously attacked by a gunman with my family and myself inside the house. No arrests were made and my family and I Received very little support. I had my Civil Rights violated on several occasions. I was falsely arrested at gunpoint by the Sheriffs as an Officer who ID’d himself and was conspired against by both LAPD and the Sheriffs when my Civil case went to Trial. I was falsely accused on more than one occasion and simply placed in a position that the trust was so compromised that I could no longer wear the Uniform. Also know there were many more episodes. All of these issues are well documented and I present them not to be a Whistle blower, However to hope that one would not assume that all of what is being said is Lies as presented by Dorner. I don’t know him, But I know me. I will say from my experience, If a person knows they were wrong it is easier to move on without anger. Seems that Dorner obviously could not move on… Could I just be content and move on with my life and not say anything? Yes…Then I would feel that I for once had my chance to speak on something that hurts me to this day and I did nothing to arouse thought or provoke reform. This is what I hope comes from this whole situation:

1. Families that lost someone to this tragedy find the peace that only God can give at this terrible time.

2. Citizens of Los Angeles be mindful of this fearful time to be an Officer and comply vigorously so that you are not the victim of an Officer on high alert.

3. Government and Politicians please be diligent in the responsibility of creating Laws that protect those who could be the victim of a conspiracy. Never allow the door to be shut on the Truth.

4. Honest and Fair LAPD & All Agencies: Keep doing what you are doing to protect citizens and be safe while you are doing so. We need you and I would hope that you do not allow the Bureaucratic drama and Stress to kill your morale as I know it can.

5. Unethical LAPD & all Agencies: Whatever is was that lead you down this path, Pray to somebody’s God to forgive you and begin to remove unethical methods to your policing style. Always think what if it were you, How would you feel?..How would you like if you were falsely accused and your life, lively-hood and career was taken from you? How would you like if someone was beating on you just because they felt they could get away with it? You are no better the criminals you took and oath to arrest when you do what you do!

6. Chistopher Dorner. The 1st thing I would say to him is, I feel your pains!…But you are going about this the wrong way. To take innocent lives could never be the answer to anything. I say this as a Man who experienced the same pain, betrayal, anger, suffering, litigation and agony that you did in many ways, Only I didn’t get Fired. I just choose to go a different route. My heart still suffered that same shock, I was still left to try and put the pieces back together. The disbelief that people could conspire and cause you to loose something you loved so dearly was still there. I lost my Career, I lost my Family, I lost my Dignity, I lost my Trust…But I am here now to hopefully one day see change…Bro, Don’t kill anymore Innocent people. Your point has been made. Clearly. They know you mean business, The whole world knows. Refrain from any further wrong doing and do what you must to salvage your Soul. Whatever that means to you. Just remember that God is a forgiving God.

In conclusion I say to people who knew none of this about me that one day I will have to reflect on when was the time to speak. When I see the potential for innocent lives to be lost…The time is Now!…JJ”

 

  • That Guy

    If only the LAPD and Christopher Dorner would read this. But the LAPD will probably use it for target practice.

    • Cop’s Dating Victim

      WRONG! They will read it and they will look for people stupid enough to use their real names. They’ll look up their names and addresses in police computers and go after them.
      Psychocop wanted my Facebook password so I gave it to him. He looked for any guy I went to grade school with or worked with that had single and spent his time looking them up on his computer and going ride by their houses to stalk them. Then, better yet , he brags so much that he told me that he did this!! Why? because they know that the Sheriff will back up any crimes they commit unless it hits that doggone newspaper and he has to react!! Sheriff hates the “newspaper” !!!!!! I ‘m waiting for their next move cuz i’ll be going to the newspaper and tv

  • TurboKitty

    Innocent until proven guilty … I still believe that and until solid, physical proof is offered up that Dorner did indeed, kill people, I still believe he is innocent …

    • Autumn Vidal

      guilty untill proven innocent that why the lock you up and you have to bail out of jail a innocent person wouldn’t have to bail out of jail and no its no right what he did but i have been a victim of police brutally when i was17 and they stomp me in handcuffs and lied about but

      • TurboKitty

        Justice is supposed to be blind. I offer you my compassion for the way you were treated, never ought to have happened to you. Everyone, according to the United States Constitution, is supposed to be innocent until proven guilty …

  • http://www.facebook.com/pat.nader Pat Nader

    Are the police that bad in Ca.?

    • http://www.myspace.com/jessinamercy Jessinamercy

      Google Rodney King LAPD.

      • alwaysthink

        Also Rampart Division and Consent Decree

        • Guest

          Google “conspiracy nut” Pat. The LAPD is more PC nowadays than most agencies in the country. California is the granola state, Pat. Here we have nuts, fruits and flakes.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002822936383 Michelle Robin Green

      Yeah, they really are that bad. Worse than all the videos you can google. Rodney King was the tip of the iceberg. Tasering mentally ill people, sitting on them until they die while they scream that they can’t breathe; kicking, hitting and tasering people who are handcuffed, just for retaliation; throwing people out of a hospital for trespassing while they are waiting for their meds, and then watching them die, making cracks about dying civilians, racial profiling, and in the last three days opening fire on civilians because? They were in a truck. And they are shooting to kill anything that even resembles a big black man. Like Latina women, or anyone in a truck. Bad time to be ‘driving while black’ in LA.

      • Cop’s Dating Victim

        Im the Rodney King of Jefferson Parish , LA .
        I wish I only had it as bad as Rodney King. Crimes against me are unheard of.
        The Battered Women’s Shelter has problems with me being in a support group b/c they don’t want the other women to hear all the horrors that happened to me. What a shame? The Sheriff continued to back this man on active duty cop list 9 months after suspending on rape /abuse/etc charges for 2 women. Our pictures alone are sickening and when you think that a JPSO cop did it, it makes it more sickening. They will let him walk and the next women will die b/c both of us were strangled til blacking out. He said “i stopped breathing 3x”. Sheriff thinks that’s ok. He and Internal Affairs also thought it was ok that he couldn’t carry a gun for 20 months. We wrote him and asked what he would do? So the Sheriff blocked us on a JPSO OFFICIAL PUBLIC SITE. I went to the FBI. He was fired in 30 hours plus and riding around my neighborhood to kill me until he ran into my daughter. How nice? Don’t think maybe someone should have followed him??
        I guess I should be happy cuz if a cat has 9 lives, I’ve outlived a lot of cats with this Psychocop Police Officer!! How many lives have i had???
        His friends are still coming after me!!! C Baldassaro wanted to first arrest me the same day that his buddy went to jail . Then a year later he came stalking me again. I’m done with these crooked cops. He lied and got a rookie to lie with him. How often do two cops sit and plot their lie and say it in front of your face as they are trying to collaborate a fake story???? For the first time, I saw cops in disagreement over me. Some of the Jpso Cops are actually sick of getting a black eye over Psychocop and his friends. They really look like crap in the community!!!

        • Sam

          Poor you. Air your dirty laundry online…good idea. Somehow make Dorner’s problems YOUR problems. Explain to all of us that there is some credibility in a man who murders innocent people. Use this tragic event to exploit your own sad event. You fool.

          • Earth Angel

            No poor you…maybe she might save the life of another cop who beats his wife…I don’t see how she made Dorner’s problem her problem…it’s crazy how some people can read something and get something totally different than what was written…smh silly ass…and who is giving this man credit for the 3 murders he committed.

      • Misty

        I remember hearing about a black woman speeding to get to a hospital with a cop on her tail. She pulled up to the hospital door , gets out of the car, tries to tell the officer she needs emergency care ASAP, and he pointed a gun at her. If my memory serves me correctly she died right there in front of him. Wish I could,remember what her ailement was, but the point is her behavior of not pulling over was explained and instead of assissting her into the hospital, he held her there at gun point instead and she died.
        Also, I dated a sherriff once and he was soooooo messed up. . And I know a girl that is in a relationship with one. I was at a party at their house and someone spilled something on the kitchen floor. He called for her to come clean it up even though he was the one standing right where it happened. There was a look of sheer terror on her face and she told me in a scared voice that she had to go clean it up before he got mad. Ooooooh, hell no! Also, I dated a sherriff for three weeks before I decided he was too much of a dick for me. I had asked him to look at a gun my brother had given me that would jam up after the first shot and when I broke up with him he told me he had ran the gun to see his history (because I thought my brother said he didn’t know the history on the gun when he gave it to me for protection), and he made up a whole story that it was registered to someone wanted for murder in a nearby county. Then I talked to my brother and he said he had the registration card on the gun and that douche bag was lying. He was gonna keep my gun!!!! Needless to say I called him and told him if he didnt give it back I was going to report him to the proper authorities. He gave it back….
        My experience has been that cops are assholes who think they are above the law. ….just sayin’

    • Autumn Vidal

      yes they are and they start alot of the gang wars and race wars between blacks and laintnos

      • Sam

        Yeah, cuz they don’t have anything better to do. Oh and 9/11 was an inside job, right? And Hollywood is under the control of the Illuminati. And Elvis is still alive.

    • Cop’s Dating Victim

      I gave a cop my phone number. Big mistake! I went from being on top of the world to a beat down battered women who couldn’t leave my house. I had to hold in all that i knew of the crimes he committed against me , my kids, my friends, and my family. One day, he went to jail for hitting another woman 13 days after hititing me. While no one would help me alone. I can tell you that there are strength in numbers!!!!!!!! We took him down. She moved away. I’m stuck here b/c I own a home but I have to get out!!! I have to get away. Me and my kids’ lives were completely ripped away from us. We all have PTSD. Imagine my kids seeing Officer Friendly D- on top of their mom with a gun in her mouth????? Or being woke up at 2 am saying I’m sorry lil honor roll student but he said he planted drugs in your room. i dumped the school bag 2x and went through the entire room. There was nothing. The next day , he laughed and spit in my face when I told him that i checked the whole room and bag. I believed him . The emotional and mental abuse was horrific. The DA still has 13 charges on him and they have not done a thing. BUt the DA goes to lunch with the Sheriff of Jefferson Parish. So, how do you overcome that???? I just want help to get out of here and be somewhere safe where i can drive and walk into a store freely. I hate him for doing this to us and i’m not real fond of the police dept who warned me not to press charges. They have now retaliated against me 4 times for this crap. I want it to be over. I want a life. i want to sleep at night and have a PO BOX number where they can’t kill me or hurt me. :(

      • Cop’s Dating Victim

        Cop? Abuser? Which one are you? B/c you have the actions of one.

      • Cop’s Dating Victim

        So , I delete when i realize that my life is in danger!!!! You keep on copying and posting everything within seconds of me posting and deleting.

        When you hear about the dead family………..you all know it’s his fault. !!! Flag all his copying as inappropriate. I can’t bear the thought of seeing my kids die. I’m sure they will make me watch my kids die before they knock me off.
        You ‘re a mental and emotionally abusive person. You must be a cop or beat women. God help you. God help us when they come to kill us :(

  • CherMoe

    I give “Joe Jones” a tremendous amount of credit for coming forth with his story. It puts a whole different slant on things, and this may be an abuse of power on the part of the LAPD that pushed someone over the edge. It sounds like it’s SOP in the LAPD.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002421692248 Ernie Kaputnik

      Nah. Give Joe Jones credit for being a negro down with the cause.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002421692248 Ernie Kaputnik

      So based on your response, next time I feel like I’ve been screwed by my employer, I am within my rights to kill my fellow employees and their families. Is that correct? Just asking because that’s the same mentality as every other mass murderer. Oh, I get it. If your white, that’s a crime, but if your black it’s OK.

      Jackasses like you are a waste of humanity, I hope you are Officer Dorner’s next victim.

      • princesspr

        Oh, Ernie you are no better than Chris Dorner…wishing death….WOW!!!

      • thatsitivehadenough

        I think you are badly confused.

      • Wil

        Your reply does’t even go with nothing that was said. I think you’re just a racist jackass that already had a statement to say and just said it without understanding what you read if you even read it. Wishing someone is next victim?? Yeah, that’s real intelligent and man of you.

        • Cop’s Dating Victim

          Why ? What kind of man are you? You aren’t one, either. You keep copying and reposting things that I realize will cause them to kill me and my kids or severely beat us and you think it’s funny? YOU ARE A PUSSY!!!! JUST LIKE HIM !! YOU ARE A COWARD FOR COPYING STUFF TO GIVE THEM MORE REASONS TO HUNT ME DOWN. I WAS TRYING TO HELP THESE OTHER VICTIMS WHEN I POSTED THIS STUFF. THEN , I REALIZED THAT MY LIFE HAS BEEN IN DANGER, NOT A GOOD IDEA AND I DELETED.
          ONLY A PUSSY WOULD WANT TO SEE A WOMAN AND HER KIDS KILLED OVER A BISEXUAL FAG COP WHO CRIES FOR DILDOS IN HIS ASS. RAPES AND BEATS A WOMAN AND HER KIDS B/C OF HIS CHILDHOOD ABUSE ANGER ISSUES. YOU ARE A SICK FUCK LIKE HIM. I HATE YOU FOR WHAT ‘S ABOUT TO HAPPEN TO MY FAMILY B/C OF YOUR PUSSY ASS

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/WCVBB6GOGAXGJ64I2JHWB7XLGY Naija G.

            ???

          • nobody

            solution: arm yourself. protect your kids. simple.

          • http://twitter.com/Anomaly100 Anomaly One Hundred

            Watch your mouth please in the commet thread. We don’t allow homophobic comments here.

          • http://www.facebook.com/lisachantal.mcallister Lisa Chantal Hankins

            Your political correctness is the biggest problem with this country. A homosexual, straight, black, white, man or woman all put their pants on the same way. So why the special treatment. Has their been name calling to a white straight male by citizens and the media such as hmmm let me think, oh yes, I believe his name is George Bush or lets see, hmmm, Glenn Beck or John Hagee. These put their pants on one leg at a time. So tell me, the position you lay in and the person you choose to have sex with, determines if name calling is aloud? If you can’t get this simple fact thru your thick racist, bias, liberal political correctness mentality, then hear lies the answer to what brings on the hatred of killing!!!!!!!

          • http://twitter.com/Anomaly100 Anomaly One Hundred

            Regardless of your views, we do not allow homophobic comments here. Deal with it.

          • Ajene Farrar

            *sigh*…calling some a “fag cop who cries for dildos in his ass” is hate speech. You think the biggest problem in this country is that some people will not tolerate hate speech in civil conversation? That’s interesting. I would think at least ONE bigger problem is that there are so many people in this country who have no qualms denigrating, oppressing and attacking groups of people based on personal prejudice and unwarranted fear. There’s a difference between name calling, criticism, and hate speech. The latter goes hand in hand with real-life oppression, and is reflective of the dangers and threats posed to minority groups in this country. Calling Glenn Beck an idiot, or what have you, is in no way the same.

            Grow up, and stop trying to vigorously defend the “value” in being a bigot.

          • http://www.facebook.com/lisachantal.mcallister Lisa Chantal Hankins

            I believe in fairness for all. I believe same treatment for all. I believe if name calling is wrong for one group than it’s wrong for all. I do not believe in hate crimes..I BELIEVE ALL KILLINGS AND ALL RAPES AND ALL BULLYING IS WRONG. I believe in EVERYONE is accountable for their actions. I do not see black and white, gay or straight, democrat or republic Ajene Farrar. I SEE THAT I AM A 49 YR OLD AMERICAN CITIZEN WHO RAISED MY CHILD SINGLE HANDED. DID NOT DEPEND ON GOVERNMENT, WAS NOT BORN WITH A SILVERSPOON IN MY MOUTH, DID NOT GRADUATE FROM COLLEGE (MY FAULT) NOT RICH BUT DO NOT BEGRUDGE PEOPLE WHO ARE. DO NOT HAVE MENTALITY THAT EVERYONE OWES ME. I AM DAMN PROUD TO BE POLITICALLY INCORRECT. I OPEY THE LAWS OF THE CONSTITUTION, I WORK MY ASS OFF DOING PHYSICAL LABOR, LANDSCAPE WITHOUT GAS OR ELECTRIC TOOLS. SHOVELS PRUNERS SAWS RAKES POST HOLE DIGGERS ETC. IS WHAT I USE….BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE ONLY TOOLS THAT CRACK HEADS HAVE NOT STOLEN FROM.
            BIGOT I AM NOT……..POLITICALL CORRECTNESS IS THE MOST FORM OF BIGOT… PC FOLLOWERS ARE THE ONES THAT POINT OUT COLOR, RACE, SEXUAL PREFERENCE, CHRISTIAN HATERS, ATHIES TOLERANTS, INDIVIDUAL ACCOUNTABILITY BIGOTS, IM A VICTIM BIGOTS
            GROW UP MR AJENE FARRAR, IM A GROWN UP WOMAN WHO LOVES MY COUNTRY AND RESPECTS THE LAWS OF THIS COUNTRY
            IM A GROWN UP WOMAN WHO LOVES MY CHILD, MY GRANDCHILD MORE THAN LIFE ITSELF.. I LOVE ALL OF MY FAMILY.
            IM A GROWN WOMAN WHO HAS SUFFERED MANY LOSSES AND MANY BEATINGS, RAPES, HOUSE BEING TORCHED, GRANDCHILDREN TAKEN, FINANCIAL STRUGGLES,
            BUT I NEVER CRIED OUT THAT IM A VICTIM……I NEVER NOT WORKED THROUGH EVERY HARDSHIP I SUFFERED…..
            SO…..MR AJENE I AM IN A PERFECT PLACE IN MY LIFE TO TELL YOU TO GROW UP.
            HUMAN RACE IS EQUAL NO ONE IS A SPECIAL RIGHTS GROUP..GAYS LESBIANS STRAIGHTS WHITE BLACK YELLOW PINK RED PURPLE OF WHAT EVER HELL THE COLOR IS…..YOU HAVE TWO KINDS OF HUMANS..MALE OR FEMALE PERIOD. (I DO NOT THINK I SHOULD HAVE TO SPELL OUT THE DIFFERENCE THERE, HOPEFULLY)
            IF I HAVE WORDS SPELLED WRONG, WTF
            IF MY GRAMMAR IS WRONG, WTF, YOU GOT THAT MR GROWN UP AJENE!!!!!!!!!

      • TheWiredWorld

        You’re acting as if the police, who has a monopoly on force, hasn’t wrongfully killed people and gotten away with it, continue to do so every day, and will abuse their power as long as they have it.

        Please, tell me more about how violence has never been used for good, and that the police are infallible in their justiciar-like fashion of wielding their boots and guns?

      • Earth Angel

        Such a sad human being you are…sounds to me that’s how you feel anyways just don’t have the guts…no it’s not right with what he did…damn how ignorant some people can be. oh & for your info it must be right when it’s a white person because it seems to me they always has a silly ass reason as to why they kill mass amounts of innocent kids…oh my mom or dad yell at me or never loved me or physically abused me etc well guess what MF’er the people you killed didn’t do it to you. It seems to me you are the real JACKASS

    • http://www.facebook.com/Mikehawksmells Patrick Batems

      I don’t give Jones credit. For 16 years what change has he brought? NON. In the few days that Dorner has acted how much change has he brought? Alot!!! He put a microscope on the LAPD where now the public is viewing this incident closely finding information. He forced the LAPD to reopen an old case that got him fired. He also forced the LAPD to acknowledge him, as someone they shouldn’t have messed with.

      • Silence Do-good.

        Sadly, this clown only adds to the problem. Even if he had the best intentions, his timing shows his severe lack of judgement. That same lack of judgement might also be the reason he had trouble over the years. I love how both of these guys paint themselves as perfect do-gooders who were ruined by the LAPD.
        They both speak of God but don’t ask him for comfort, help or advice; instead the preach it to the reader.
        And finally, its time to drop the race card. This isn’t 1950,1960…hell not even 1980! I am glad however that they put their thoughts out there for us to see. Ego maniacs and psychos. How can Jones send condolences to the families and at the same time empathize with the murderer? Oh, that’s right…two grown men can accept the fact that life is tough at times.
        What a bunch of entitled, self-righteous a holes.

        • Guest

          What a dangerous time we are in. The day a cop killer has more supporters/empathizers than he does opponents. Dorner will be caught or killed but the world will remember when society in this country hit a new low.
          All of you who are anti cop should be pro gun. I mean who else will protect you and your family when the sh it hits the fan? Because you won’t call the corrupt, racist, evil, baby eating police…riiiight???
          Didn’t think so.

          • The Concerned Citizen

            Do think so. Police are for clean up. Blue clad janitors and road tax collectors.

            I don’t condone Dorner but I do understand. Jones, however, hasn’t said anything because he would have just been pushed further down into the mud. …probably viewed as an angry black man by you racist jerks.

            Now, however, the LAPD cannot hide. Like a sniper, Jones chooses his target carefully and then turns it loose.

            Thank you Mr. Jones for showing us that there are still some good officers out there. Come to my town and apply. We need people like you in our midst!

          • Earth Angel

            We’ve been living in dangerous times…especially when the Pillars of the Community has the right to do any & everything under the Sun, Moon & Stars and nothing happens to them. The citizens that understand where he’s coming for has been through this & worst & no some citizens do not agree with how he went about this. Also most citizens are not calling all cops evil, racist, corrupt liars, that’s for the ones who knows it’s them. Not every cop is bad just like not every citizen is bad. Yes we will be calling the police to protect us after all that’s their job, hopefully you get a decent cop that answers your call.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Terral/629391741 Jim Terral

            The shit has hit the fan.

          • THA UGLY TRUTY

            yea lets stockpile guns so when those racist, crooked cops come knockin imma go poppin…thats the answer…I agree with you on the other… he is no hero, and why are people empathisizing with a freakin murderer?!?

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1396965929 P.D. Buck

            The sad truth is we are living in a time when people are no longer going to put up with LE. They are here to protect and serve. Not bribe and manipulate. In my eyes our society is rising up, not getting lower. I am not anti cop. That’s where people like you get things twisted. but you can bet your ass that I’m pro gun. And you are correct in saying that I wont call the cops when the sh*t hits the fan, never have. I’m more armed than the local police are so suffice it to say that they might be the ones calling me when it all goes down!! Don’t believe me? Come on over to KY and let me show you. I’ve never needed the gov’t to hold my hand and never will.

        • Earth Angel

          SMH….I guess you are one of the people who have never experienced this in your life & maybe when or if it happens to you, you’ll then begin to understand. As far as Officer Dorner speaking about God I read the manifest & all he said was that God & the bible was a fairytale or a good story telling book however, I will read it again. And before you say it I don’t agree with the way he went about bringing this to the forefront but he did. No it’s not the 50’s 60’s etc but racism is still here and much more out in the open just in another form. IJS

          • Guest

            My father had been beat within an inch of his life by 2 cops some years back. My brother has also been on the receiving end of a bad cop. We’ve never bitched or moaned about it because we know this world isn’t perfect. Yes there are bad cops in the LAPD but the overwhelming majority are professional at what they do. Quick fact: this chief has fired more officers than the previous one. Doesn’t sound like the blue line culture Dorner spoke of and the majority believe in. It is beyond belief that this guy is given so much credit! It’s as if people picked parts of the manifesto and clung to that while ignoring the EVIL parts.
            “Well yeah people died but he’s fighting for something!”…what horse shit. Can people take whatever feelings they have towards cops out of this equation and just condem this guy, his words and actions? Jesus Christ, people actually think some good will come out of this. Anything good should not have come from the death of any cop or citizen.
            But the upside to reading all of these comments is that it has changed my view of abortion; I used to be pro-life. Now I believe pro-choice is great. What better way to limit the amount of assholes in the world.

          • eric willams

            Wow, so its ok that your dad and brothers took ass whooping from the cops yet had it been some of the guys down the street it would have been a fight right? You people that talk about not fighting back by whatever means mainly violence kill me! It’s ok to defend yourself against another person but not the police. Well the next time you get into a street fight or your child is getting bullied I hope you remember your non violence stance then and take your ass down there with a picket sign or send your kid out there with a picket sign and I hope y’all both get those signs shoved up your ass!

          • RosefromPittsburgh

            I agree with you 110% Eric! People like Earth Angel make me lol! Are you serious? It’s okay that the cops beat the f out of your dad and brother, that’s what you’re saying, right? People have to stand up for themselves, who cares it’s the cops because at the end of the day when they take that badge off they’re human as well. My dad was a cop and he seen many things that went on that should had not went on from officers that took the oath “To protect and serve”. He did not like what was going on and decided to leave and took his career in another direction. The boys in blue do not care about their other boys in blue when their skin is darker than theirs. F the LAPD a lot of them are very racist and that’s why they have been in the news for many years. What they need to do is open an investigation on the LAPD and get all the bad cops removed from the department. A lot of cops become cops to do wrong. I dated a cop and he was bullied as a kid and wanted revenge on the kids who bullied him, so he went around being an asshole to everybody he crossed. I know firsthand a lot of cops are bad they’re not about protecting and serving the community. SN: If you’re black be careful out here!

          • Earth Angel

            ppl like u makes me LMMFA…eric was not talking about me stupid he was commenting to someone else name Silnce do-good….guest u can’t read…oh my bad you meant to mention his name just read your post again…it was not me that said cops beat my family…so I apoligize to you RosefromPittsburg…you mixed the stories.

          • RosefromPittsburgh

            I’m far from stupid! I can read very well thank you! I have two degrees. Well since I’m a grown classy woman I will say my bad. I thought the story was about your family.

          • http://www.facebook.com/lexxcoop78 Kerry Cooper

            I bet she couldn’t tell her brother and pops that cap!!!..nothing was said out if fear…not because its ok….she killed me with that

          • Earth Angel

            Thank you eric williams…people like him makes me laugh…& if someone was to kick his ass, his daddy ass he’ll call the police, but he’s scared to file a claim against the ones that’s suppose to protect & serve…he’s an idiot…what does pro-life & pro-choice have to do with it…oh I know what it means his mom made a mistake an gave birth to his ass…smh

        • THA UGLY TRUTY

          Well it may not be the 50 or 60’s but the same BS is going on..he only empathized with Donner and his experiences with lapd, he did not condone the killing of innocents people as he clearly stated…READING is FUNDAMENTAL! And why isn’t it the right time? I think more should come for it and clean that racist regime of cops out…Everybody knows that’s happening in LAPD, its no secret but maybe now is the time to act and clean it up….so the only clown i see is you who is in denial as if they are just making this up!

        • TheNewGirl

          No, it isn’t 1950, 1960, or 1980, but the reality of what’s going on in our society seems to escape you. I’m not sure why you’re in such discrimination denial but it must be really nice to float around in life believing that people aren’t being emotionally held hostage by institutionalized and socialized racism anymore. Systemic complacency is what your statement reflects and it’s really scary. It wasn’t long after suffering two life altering violent crimes within a few months of each other in undergrad in DC that I found myself living in LA, where the reality was that as a citizen I had to worry as much about police conduct as I did about criminals. It’s a really horrible situation to find yourself in when you’re raised believing that the police are there to protect you. Sure, as children and by unfortunate experiences in general, we people of color are taught to expect some biases and profiling from police, but nothing I’d learned in life prior to LA had prepared me for the horrors of dealing with the LAPD. I literally just about had a nervous breakdown after an incident in 1998 where police knocked on our door and pulled my pajama-clad husband
          out of our apartment *at gunpoint*, handcuffed him and shoved him against the wall (one day before
          Christmas Eve, mind you) because someone had phoned in a robbery in
          progress in one building or another. Apparently they got
          the wrong door, wrong building, but not before scaring me and my husband
          within an inch of our lives with their trigger happy maneuvers. What robber
          have you ever heard of that would easily answer someone else’s door… in
          pajamas? This was in a middle class neighborhood, we’re upper middle class, well spoken people, and my husband was an MFA student at UCLA at the time. Very gentle, very friendly, had never even seen a gun in person, much less had one shoved into his face… but also very dark skinned, so I suppose he fit the profile. In the end, we managed to talk the extremely trigger happy pair of officers down, and they put away their guns and uncuffed my husband. The slightly more sensible officer admitted that when my husband opened the door he realized that they’d got the wrong door. This, however didn’t stop them from grabbing and holding my husband at gunpoint and physically roughing him up. We ended up writing the department a five page letter and subsequently learned that one of the officers (the more aggressive one) had several previous complaints on his record, which pointed towards (guess!) racial profiling and unnecessary force. This incident was also following MULTIPLE times of being pulled
          over because of DWB (driving while black). I, a tiny, five feet tall lady, was once actually asked to
          step out of my car… WITH NO RESULTS in the end. No reasoning, no
          warning, and no ticket. I had to get out of that city. Those guys are
          literally Nazi cops; one false move, and they will beat you, or worse, kill you and think of the consequences
          later. And usually the consequences will amount to a slap on the wrist, even if video evidence is present. I just couldn’t live that way anymore. I was becoming a nervous
          wreck. I really wish the City of Los Angeles would do something about
          them. They’re a godd*mn menace. And you do the math: if that’s how they treat normal, law abiding citizens, wouldn’t it stand to reason that there’d be some racialized issues within the infrastructure? I’ve personally heard several horror stories from former LADP officers who were black, Latino, or gay – and these were really upstanding guys who just got tired of trying to do their jobs well as they were being bullied unmercifully within their departments and encouraged to act aggressively towards citizens of color. The whole society, not just citizens and officers who fall at the unfortunate end of racial profiling, should be concerned about the integrity of a force charged with the responsibility of protecting the public. Please stop insinuating that the people on the receiving end of this need to drop the issue, while these racists run riot. Since it isn’t 1950, it shouldn’t be happening at all at this point. NOTHING rationalizes the actions of a crazy man who kiils people, but with or without Dorner, this problem exists and it is a serious one. I find it reprehensible that it takes a sensational incident like this to get people like Joe Jones coming forward to re-broach this underlying issue, and then those in denial want to chime in to remind the rest of us that it’s all in our heads. This is supposed to be the United States, not a fascist dictatorship where ordinary citizens get harassed, brutalized, and brought in on trumped up charges. At some point a lot of people are going to have to accept that we (people of color) are ordinary citizens too, don’t deserve this, and aren’t ‘making it up’. Either be part of the solution, or stay in denial, but please stop fueling the bullies by insinuating that we’re trumping it up. That’s a flat out lie. People like me HATE facing racial discrimination and love being able to drive around, shop, and live in neighborhoods normally without being afraid of being profiled and harassed by those who are supposed to protect us.

          • David

            Well, a policeman whose son I taught once told me that a police force (or any other groups of public servants) reflects the society from which it is drawn. This was back in the 1970’s in the UK.

        • thomas walker

          So Jones is a “perfect doer” who admitted to having flaws eh? hahaha fuck up.

        • C.Truth

          God cares for both the victim and the accused. It’s not hard to figure out. When you know better you do better, when you don’t you judge.

        • Mandy

          Do you live in L.A.? Racism especially from LAPD and racial profiling still exists and is VERY strong today. Just because you haven’t personally experienced it or witnessed it, doesn’t mean it isn’t happening. I have no idea what world you live in but racism is going strong and hasn’t changed enough since the 50’s.. wake up!

      • THA UGLY TRUTY

        You should give Jones credit for peacefully making his statement….Dorner will be dead in a few days, but I guess he will die a martyr…..? I don’t condone killing innocent people…now had he shot the guilty ones…eh, I’d probably would not be as bothered

      • http://www.facebook.com/Lee.ColinUnitedCharishOrganization Lee Colin

        What of the innocent people he killed and their families? What if the
        lovely girl and her fiance were your kin? Would you still think that the
        end justifies the means? It is the LAPD investigating themselves and
        some officers peeing their pants. Big deal. What Dorner has accomplished
        through his criminal behavior puts him in the same light as those he
        hates.

        • D-X

          Where is the proof?
          They should have brought him in… even wounded or with their many means of non leathal force. Instead of giving him a fair trial, and producing evidence, they fucking burned him alive like a bunch of blood crazed animals.
          They are supposed to protect people and uphold the law….. be a spoke in the wheel of justice… They’re obviously more interested in Murder.
          Pull your head out of your ass

          • D-X

            LAPD shot up a bunch of people in pursuit of this man…
            What about that?

          • Sky Ung

            Yeah they burned the guy alive. He tied up two old people and stole their truck…than he shot two deputies….. use some common sense. Law enforcement won’t risk more lives of their own people when they know that Dorner is a trained killer, is well equipped, and obviously has it out for Law enforcement. Why should they treat him anymore special than any other murderous thug? He’s killed two innocent bystanders, an LAPD cop, and at least one Deputy. This isn’t a movie where someone rushes into the cabin and shoots him in the foot and everything’s alright. If he wanted a fair trial he should have approached the problem in a legal way. A guy who kills four people, two of them innocent bystanders, doesn’t want a fair trial. He wants to go out in a blaze of glory. (No pun intended)

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Adam-Weinberg/100000939106841 Adam Weinberg

            hey dumb fuck maybe you missed the part where he went about it the legal way and they fired him and ruined his name/life.

          • OX

            dude, first of all, calling people names in a argument making you a dumb fck.
            second, he killed innocent people. period. nothing can justify a murder.
            third, dont believe anything you read on internet.
            i dont even get your argument. “you missed the part where he went about it the legal way and they fired him and ruined his name/life.” – well, that part was before he was accused in murders. So, logically, when people are talking about his right to a fair trail, its related to his recent crimes, which was way AFTER ” he went about it the legal “

          • nanny2boys

            They also wont risk taking him alive especially with things to hide and we all know what boy scouts the LAPD is, it has been documented, video’d, taped, reported, and testified to! I dont at all condone Donner but mcvay, domer, and some people who have done some very horrific things lived to get to court! But I am glad that it has thrown a light on the LAPD.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000202635545 Arthur Notimeforyourbs Paine

            That’s how it all began,he relied on the system which he was a part of to reprimand a female officer whom he reported for kicking a man in the face and the chest who happened to be mentally challenged, let’s not lose sight of the facts, I believe the deaths to be horrible but the deaths are the aftermath of finding out a system, a family, a CODE that you believe turns out to be not what you thought it was, also keep in mind It’s the LAPD, lots of dirty laundry, Bottomline WE want our police to operate,above board, and do like there seal say to Protect & Service..

          • Cori Briggs

            Oh, so he’s a thug? And what makes him a thug?

          • OX

            if he wanted a fair trial, why did he run? Did you ask yourself that? why didnt he just get his fair trail? no one stopped him from surrounding himself to police.
            “They should have brought him in… even wounded or with their many means of non leathal force” – are you serious? how can you “bring in” a firing at you trained man alive? he killed a man who tried to bring him in… its so easy to say that, but not easy to implement i hope you understand that, and maybe next time before saying something try think “is it even possible in giving circumstances?”

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002822936383 Michelle Robin Green

    Ernie, did you really say this? ‘And thus, the reason we have so many ignorant, racist, black troglodytes in Congress and as POTUS & FLOTUS.’ Did you really call the President and First Lady ‘black troglodytes?’ I mean, I’ve seen some of your other comments, and they are pretty racist. Ok, totally racist, and you seem proud of it. Are you really that brain damaged? Just curious.

    • Kick

      This is his claim to fame..He’s hiding behind a fake name because he’s associated with LAPD and running scared

      • Earth Angel

        And using up tax payers dollars to send drones out to look for one man…bad enough California spends almost $58,000 a year per inmate….and money when the cops gets sued or get complaints filed on them…they use tax payers dollars to suspend with pay.

  • http://twitter.com/AmarJoshi9 Amar Joshi

    It’s good to see other officers coming out with their stories. Now if only enough attention is brought upon them so that real change can be accomplished…

    Regarding Dorner, one can derive intent from his manifesto but he is still innocent until proven guilty. One thing a lot of people seem to be forgetting is that he is WANTED not GUILTY. It’s up to a judge and jury to review the evidence to determine his freedom.

    I’m sure there are attorney’s lining up to take the case. From reading his manifesto, one can determine that Dorner was a man of integrity who’s name was tarnished by the very department he worked for. The actions of a few bad apples in the department were unacceptable to Dorner so he utilized the system that was in place to report those actions, but that system failed him and consequently the people that Dorner allegedly killed. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to shift responsibility from his heinous acts (if he truly was the person who committed them). If he is found guilty, I believe that he deserves to serve out his sentence, whether that is life in prison or the death penalty is up to the court.

    I can only pray that if Dorner is located, the responding officers keep that in mind, instead of letting their emotions interfere with protocol. That interference may lead to something tragic. Of course it takes two to tango, so I also pray that Dorner makes the smart decision to not provoke deadly force through threatening actions. Realistically, if he is located he will probably force their hand and it’ll be a case of “suicide by cop”.

    If he is never caught, I hope that at least the system in place to keep officers in check will be reviewed and revamped. The code of silence in police departments is bullshit, imo. It leads to the decaying of integrity that people, who joined law enforcement for noble reasons, possess while making it acceptable for the “bad apples” to continue to push the limits of duty which consequently deteriorates public relations. How can officers police their communities effectively if the community they serve doesn’t trust nor support them? This is why many police officers become jaded and develop an “us vs them” attitude that only further perpetuates the public’s mistrust

    It’s up to journalists, an educated public, and people with integrity in LAPD’s administration to read Dorner’s manifesto to seek out the system’s misgivings so that change may be accomplished. If no change is accomplished, the deaths of the innocent people will truly be in vain. Point is, not ALL cops are bad. It’s up to an informed populace to keep the bad ones in check so the good ones don’t get corrupted and/or jaded.

    • Justice

      I agree, everyone is supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.. Personally, I really think that Dorner is a plant working for the Feds in an effort to expose wrongdoings. I personally think that the LAPD is attempting to set him up, but in truth they’ve been exposed. One example, they claimed they found his LAPD badge in San Diego, how could that be, specifically when everyone knows that once an officer is terminated, their service revolver and badge retrieved.

    • Earth Angel

      Well said

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/L244BMF4ZSC6IPHPMLGTV62JVQ roberta

    I understand this guy.

  • Gama Xul

    My public declarations of policy and goals are much better.

  • Dgame

    This happens so many times,especially in “right to work” states. Employers treat workers like dirt and forget they may push too far. When a human is pushed to their breaking point “unfairly,” who’s fault is it? My caution to those pushed too far, go after those who pushed you. Don’t waste time on innocents .-Ty Dgame

  • princesspr

    As an African-American I am not surprise..These situations happen everyday ALL DAY….I just HATE this information has to be delivered this way. I will NEVER defend Chris for his actions; but, it’s sad he felt he had no other choice but to kill innocent people.

  • Cop’s Dating Victim

    I suffer PTSD b/c I’m a victim of my cop bf who raped me in uniform repeatedly with his loaded duty weapon in my mouth. I was beaten so much that i had to isolate myself from others for one year b/c I could no longer explain the bruises or black eyes. I had to miss MD appts b/c they wanted to know why. He strangled me and choked me, stalked me, chased me in his patrol car down streets/through yards, falsely imprisoned me many times, property and car damage from a bobcat ride while i was in the car. He pulled my hair so much to the side that i have an injured neck, spit in my face, called me a Cunt, kicked me, arrest me in my sleep (not a real arrest, just beat me cuz he could). I stopped breathing 3 x when i was blacking out from strangulations. He did this in a cop uniform, on duty, with his badge, loaded gun, patrol car running for hours out front. He and his coworkers beat black men for a living. He would keep me on the phone all night and I would hear. I know incidents of black man beaten and kicked/handcuffed in a garage by him and FC. Nigga/Nigger was used all night. He went to work to look for people to beat. If I wasn’t on speaker he told me about bragging. He abused my daughter. He told me that if I called 911 “He was the Police and he’d clear the call. That he and his friends would plant drugs/murder weapons on me, my friends, and my family.” He would follow me and my family down streets and tail us. Calling me saying open the door or I’ll pull them over and beat the F out of them. I would open the door and take beatings to prevent others getting beat. He raided my best friend’s house with his coworker. How odd for a patrol cop to want your computer passwords and dig through your jewelry box and purse when they are looking for a rifle? I’ve been through hell. My daughter sleeps with her blinds open from PTSD. We don’t sleep at night b/c he worked at night and would be standing over my bed crying about arresting people for “doing less than he did.” He knew he was sick. His SGT warned me not to press charges against his finest officer (more like his roid rage officer who beat up the most people so they could stand back and laugh). On 4 retaliations now for getting him fired. He was on suspension for 9 months , not fired, active duty for beating up 2 women in a matter of 13 days. Took a NO Plea and probation in 2010 and a guilty plea in 2012. He had 2 women with restraint orders -no gun for 20 months but yet still active duty of the police dept. Rumor was he was going to work in the jail bc no gun needed then back on the streets. This is a man who broke my front door down in a cop uniform and cop car. I know , i know him and his friends are bad bad bad people. if i didn’t hear it , he told me all about it. He beat people up then transported them to ER himself. I said “what are you gonna do when the nurse and MD asks what happened?” He said “THIS MF knows better than to tell. If he does he’ll never talk again b/c he’ll be a dead nigger!” The person would be laying in bed and I would hear them tell the md “nothing. nothing”. An MD can’t say “Officer, walk out for a minute? I mean he’s handcuffed to the bed” WTH is wrong with the MD’s and Nurses that they let this happen in the ER of the state hospital? With all that i know, I have trouble getting anything done. The Sheriff, DA, Internal Affairs, The Sheriff in the next parish, The judges, lawyers, etc……………all friends. Go to lunch, dinner, events together. I wrote on FB. I wrote to the SHeriff’s official page, so he blocked me from writting on a public official police page. My friends wrote and he did the same to them. They are not going to give Christoper a fair trial. How do you even know he did this? You say that you know, if you know what I know……Then you know they set people up. My cop had a black trunk in the back of the trunk. He had stuffed animals at the top and under were weapons, drugs he took off of people. He’d use them to arrest people and plant it on them. He planted a bloody knife on me, a taser, and a glock. I got rid of them and he took the glock back b/c he came over and said he needed it one night. I never saw him with it again. I guess someone went to prison. It took a lot for me to come forward. He had to be sitting in jail and still his friend cop LT wanted to know why meet here in a public place? Duh? Lights, crowd. Why are you dressed like that (meaning a ho? ) but I came from a college exam. Have you been drinking? Yes, the coke can was still in my console. He ridiculed me and put me down so much, refused to even take my complaint, but the other cop who had already been there for a set up knew all and i helped him by telling him where they were sleeping at, that they were trying to get him fired, and stuff. He took the report. I’ve been attacked by these guys over and over. I stopped driving for 6 months b/c they know my car, where i work, where i live, etc. I’m terrified. They still won’t stop and they have a “need’ to get rid of me in some way; prison or death. They will react to me and are coming for me as the Federal Law suits get closer. I have a lot to say. My story has never changed through the FBi agents , Lts/Sgts/deputies, Rape/assault Detective, DA, Counselors, Battered WOmen’s Shelter (who threw me out of group b/c my abuse scares the other women b/c they are suppose to trust cops) , Lawyers, Judges, Internal Affairs, etc.
    I do believe that your statement that the fact that the 3 of us know that we are telling the truth and are innocent is our main reason that we cannot move on with our lives. The dishonest are awarded. The honest are traumatized. I too have done everything right in my life; multiple degrees, owner, kids, a special needs adoption, a community volunteer, fundraiser, volunteer, etc They are trying to stop me from being a professional, ruin me, stop my volunteer work, my graduate school, and harm me and my family. I’m not going to stand for it. Personally, I have 1 month left to sue them Federally and I am a witness for someone else’s federal suit. It’s time for civil suits and federal suits on several depts. I plan to end my month that way. I need the money to move out of their area b/c i’m a homeowner and cannot abandon my home nor pay for 2 homes at a time. They want me gone, I’ll be gone, but it’s going to cost them. In the meantime, i will never walk into a store or resturaunt on a street or anywhere without a witness. Plans are in set for all actions that I am to take per the FBI and State Police for any other way they come after me. I plan to move to an area where me and my family can be safe and just be normal again like before I gave him my number. I hope that I will live to see that day before my body goes missing (i’ve already been told where it will be dumped so i told every agency) and before they plant a set up on me and my family. I just want out. I don’t even want trouble for them . just get me out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I do not believe that Christopher has done this. I think it’s a set up. I could certainly see them setting me up again any chance they can. I have to get out of their area. My dad said “They will just tell their friends at other places to harm me b/c the Blue Crooked Line of Brotherhood is that deep”. I hope he’s wrong. I fear for Christopher and while i’m not in his district. I will be glad to come to court for him as a witness as to what cops have done for me for telling on him about raping me with a loaded gun in my mouth after breaking in my office while on duty. Yeah!!!!! FML , b/c I gave a bad bad bad cop my phone number. OMG! I wish I could take that day back !!!! Good Luck Christopher. I’m pulling for you!

  • LINDA WALKER

    THE LA POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN CORRUPT A LONG TIME BEFORE NOW, I LIVED IN HOLLYWOOD AN THE X POLICE CHIEF WAS THE MANAGER OF MY APARTMENT BUILDING. MY FRIEND DROVE AND 1969 DE CABALARO CADALAC,,,, SIDE BARS , SUNROOF AN ONE WEEK EN I EFT OUT OF TOWN AND HE TOOK IT UPON HIMSELF TO GO INTO MY APARTMENT AND PUT MY THING ON TOP OF THE ROOF AND SAID SOMEONE MUST HAAV STOLE THEM . I HAD CALLED HIM, I WAS ON MY WAY TO PAY MY RENT HE TOOK EVERYTHING OUT OF MY APARTMENT , WHEN I GOT BACK TO MY APARTMENT HE HAD MOVED SOMEONE ELSE INTO MY PLACE. TRUE STORY, THESE POLICE OFFICERS THINK THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT AND DO AND GET AWAY WITH IT.. THEY HAD ME STAKED OUT ANYWAY BECAUSE OF THE CARS THEY SAW COME TO MY APARTMENT.YEAR 1974.

    • Cop’s Dating Victim

      My cop bf and his friends got their kicks out of the fact that when people called for help, he would talk to them like crap and if they said something he didn’t like, he would “head-butt ” them and bust their heads wide open with his head. His head would have mild redness. IT was one of their past times for white trash and “niggers” on a boring night.

      He doesn’t know his father, but i swear he’s Lucifer’s son. He would beat his head repeatedly punching himself in the head while I would sit and cry, screaming “DOn’t, don’t” Then, he’d put his gun to his head something like 100 plus times. I stopped counting. He would bang his head against cement walls and not have a mark on him. Weirdest thing I ever saw!!!!! A Freak-a-zoid!!!
      Jefferson Parish, LA —don’t move here either!

      • Cop’s Dating Victim

        You copied it after it was deleted. If me and my kids die, the blood is on your hands. Find that funny. This is not a joke. They will kill me and my children and why i chose to delete this and you copy it immediately then keep reposting.
        Hope we make it til the end of the week. Two of the kids are in grade school. Think of that fact that she was beaten until needing a counselor and has to sleep with her blinds open afraid the perpretrator will return. If it makes you feel good for 3 dead white kids and their mom. DO SO! ENJOY!

        • Cop’s Dating Victim

          I put white kids b/c we are white and you obviously a racist cop pig abuser! FUCK YOU. He liked strap on dildos in his ass and transvestites, too . Maybe you 2 should meet up , Dickhead FAGGOT!!

  • j w

    Here’s My Manifesto …. The Reality IS the Feds and States are all Crooked as Hell … Money Money Money Money … AND YES MERS is being run from LA … That’s Right First American Title and MERS the biggest CROOKS There are. http://www.bing.com/search?q=MERS+Crooks++Goverment+Cover+Up++Bank+Looting&go=&qs=n&form=QBLH&pq=mers+crooks+goverment+cover+up+bank+looting&sc=0-0&sp=-1&sk= TRILLIONS HAVE BEEN LOOTED and LA’s MERS is directly at the Heart of It along with Treasury, FBI, HUD and Fannie and Freddie and the Entire BANKSTER Industry

  • http://www.facebook.com/euqid Michael Dique

    LOL. So I guess you are A. a retard, and B. a complete retard. Correct?

    • http://twitter.com/Anomaly100 Anomaly One Hundred

      Correct.

  • Cop’s Dating Victim

    Would everyone kindly flag Wil’s comments that he copied from me as inappropriate? I realized that while helping another person that I am putting my little kids’ lives in danger.
    These men are ruthless and would shoot my children at gunpoint. Please flag it .
    Me and my kids will be dead by the end of the week. This is not a joke. This is a serious matter.

  • Cop’s Dating Victim

    GUESS I SHOULD GO KISS MY KIDS GOODBYE . THEY WILL BE HOSPITALIZED OR KILLED B/C
    “WIL THE PUSSY” THAT HAS COPIED WHAT I DELETED . FUCK YOU PUSSY FAGGOT!

  • esider

    These LAPD, are the worst! They are all gang members in blue if you dont roll with them they fuck over you. All of them, they set doner up! They act like they help you, they use everything you share with them to turn your community on you nwa baby f tha police

  • esider

    They set him up I remeber them bastards putting a gun to my head when I was around 11 and saying if I did not admit to the crime he was gonna kill me fuck the police

  • esider

    Captain T good luck bro!

  • truthistreason

    Dorner knows something that the system doesnt want out. Thats why they are willing to kill on the spot, no questions asked.

  • Johnrambo1

    Dorner is another racist obama shock trooper.

  • guest

    Some of these comments are sickening and according to the desire to live in peace and equality, we all know whose comments are sickening. I commend Jones for saying what he has. Sadly, he may be the only hope for someone experiencing such racist issues. He has a lot more integrity and strength in the midst of a climate of fear than any of you that turn blind eyes to HUMAN suffering.

  • Bonnie Dyer

    Abuse of power can be found in all genres of employment. I spoke out against falsifications of documents which led to my job being taken away from me in an educational environment. The powers that be protected the Principal and several years later I am still trying to rebound from the lack of human respect which was not rendered to me. Even the Assistant Principal sat back and kept a closed mouth she even participated in the behavior. I am a Christopher Dorner and a Joe Jones because I overstand their plight, their circumstances, their fear and their fight to clear their names and make the world know how they were treated.

  • nobody

    The bible I cling to suggests that the statements you make are vile and unworthy. What bible are you clinging to? 0.o

  • Rod

    It’s interesting how race is mentioned so much in regards to this guy’s post, yet he makes not a single mention of racism. All of his points seem to be toward corruption. And ultimately he seems to be saying, I understand you, I have been through similar situations but you are essentially going about it in the worst way. And he is telling him that no matter what God can forgive him if he stops his path now. Seems to me like an honest attempt to reach him and I personally can’t find fault with it. Better than a bunch of people sitting around debating and making judgements, imho…

  • BOOM

    YOU’RE ALL RACISTS!.. haha.. Seriously, just reading down the first few comments I find a trend. It’s not about being black or white, though it may create the necessary tensions to cause such heinousness, but look at what it really going on. This country blows and the people running it blows. This isn’t the first case of someone getting pushed over the edge and won’t be the last. It’s just the present one that we’re all focused on. Let’s give some focus to some of the real problems we actually face as a nation rather than parading around giving one opinion over another about a meaningless story that will be lost in the mountain of other meaningless stories.

  • http://www.facebook.com/anthonyd.smith.71 Anthonyd Smith

    I don’t believe this crap. This is something posted to appease these damn suburbanites. Gtfoh

  • http://www.facebook.com/greg.mecomber Greg Mecomber

    A video about the LAPD selling drugs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t3pl5Wxgyg

  • JAdams

    We have to remember to “Say something good or remain silent”. Many of us, are more willing to perpetuate the problem opposed to hate in our hearts the loss that has occurred with those lives that have been taken, while forgetting that anyone of us could also have been placed in the shoes of Christopher Dorner. We may say what we would have done had it been us, but we actually don’t know what we would’ve done.
    At minimum, former LAPD Officer J. Jones has acknowledged the losses that have occurred. And this beats not saying anything at all. (Only God knows what his intentions are and well as the action that he has taken.)
    Lastly, some of the comments shown only show us that our American society continues to regress with regards to racism and understanding cultural diversity.
    Hopefully the words that were spoken and the action that was taken to come forth and say a word to help if not correct what has already occurred will make a difference.
    If former LAPD Officer C. Dorner reads the words of another officer that has mentioned his experience, perhaps he will stop the taking of innocent uninvolved lives and stop causing others to feel hurt as the result of some hurtful things that he experienced.
    May God bless us with guidance towards truth, understanding and forebearance.

  • Goddbody

    For God’s sake man, please stop trying to rationalize with racist white people who will never respect us until we beat their asses. White folks think that everything the law does is right. You can’t reason with these animals. The only thing they understand is violence. Black people stand up and stop taking this crap. They can never defeat us, and they know it. The guy clearly was only trying to convey that he experienced similar dealings as Doner when he worked with LAPD. These people don’t get it because they don’t want to. Stop playing with these racist bastards. The day is coming and they no it, that’s why they are scared like the true cowardice pricks that they are!

  • chris

    WOW. Dorner’s manifesto largely dispelled as the mad rant of a killer….now what? Appreciate this guy stepping forward.

  • http://www.facebook.com/arlex.mena Arlex Mena

    sadly LAPD get brain wash…. they are lead by their emotions no by the LAW…. i am cow-worker with a LAPD CADET, they are already getting to him. we work as a security taking care of a building. every day he tells me all the things LAPD does. and i also talk for what i see.. im a 22 year old who lives in SOUTH CENTRO LA… and i see who LAPD treats people… i my self been behind many cop cars, no for crimes but for standing up for people or my self… they try to put you down for no reason and because i know my rights and the law they would put me behind a cop car for a wield…

  • PLAY FARE

    REALLY SAD THE SUBJECT HAS COME DOWN TO RACE AND SOE OF CHRIS’S EXPERIENCE HAS SHOWED IT, BUT THE REALITY OF THINGS NOWADAYS IS JUST FILLING A REPORT ISNT ENOUGH. I KNOW ITS A LOT OF POST ON HERE AND SOMEONE HAS PROBABLY STATED IT SO MY APOLOGIES. DORNER PROBABLY COULD HAVE WENT ANOTHER ROUTE TO EXPRESS HIS DIS-LIKE BUT COULD YOU THINK OF IT? IN A WAY HE HAD TO PUSH THE LINE BECAUSE THIS WAY HIS COMPLAINT IS NOW IMPORTANT. IT’S LIKE SOMEONE PUTTING THEY’RE HAND IN YOUR FACE AND TELLING YOU I WISH YOU WOULD. THEY LISTEN WHEN YOU DO. ITS CALLED INNOCENT PEOPLE GETTING SHOT HERE AT HOME. ITS CALLED COLLATERAL DAMAGE WHEN THE INNOCENT GET SHOT IN WAR TIME!

  • http://twitter.com/KobesGameFace Kobe’s Game Face

    You’ll forgive me if I am skeptical of information I read on a website called “Freakout Nation”.

  • Michael J.

    “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

    Thomas Jefferson

    • http://comgen.blogspot.com/ ComGen

      For historical purpose-in full context:

      Jefferson in a letter to William S. Smith, a diplomatic official in London, on November 13, 1787


      Paris. Nov 13, 1787.
      Dear Sir,

      —I am now to acknoledge the receipt of your favors of October the 4th, 8th, & 26th. In the last you apologise for your letters of introduction to Americans coming here. It is so far from needing apology on your part, that it calls for thanks on mine. I endeavor to shew civilities to all the Americans who come here, & will give me opportunities of doing it: and it is a matter of comfort to know from a good quarter what they are, & how far I may go in my attentions to them. Can you send me Woodmason’s bills for the two copying presses for the M. de la Fayette, & the M. de Chastellux? The latter makes one article in a considerable account, of old standing, and which I cannot present for want of this article.—I do not know whether it is to yourself or Mr. Adams I am to give my thanks for the copy of the new constitution. I beg leave through you to place them where due. It will be yet three weeks before I shall receive them from America. There are very good articles in it: & very bad. I do not know which preponderate. What we have lately read in the history of Holland, in the chapter on the Stadtholder, would have sufficed to set me against a chief magistrate eligible for a long duration, if I had ever been disposed towards one: & what we have always read of the elections of Polish kings should have forever excluded the idea of one continuable for life. Wonderful is the effect of impudent & persevering lying. The British ministry have so long hired their gazetteers to repeat and model into every form lies about our being in anarchy, that the world has at length believed them, the English nation has believed them, the ministers themselves have come to believe them, & what is more wonderful, we have believed them ourselves. Yet where does this anarchy exist? Where did it ever exist, except in the single instance of Massachusetts? And can history produce an instance of rebellion so honourably conducted? I say nothing of it’s motives. They were founded in ignorance, not wickedness. God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. We have had 13. states independent 11. years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century & a half for each state. What country before ever existed a century & half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is it’s natural manure. Our Convention has been too much impressed by the insurrection of Massachusetts: and in the spur of the moment they are setting up a kite to keep the hen-yard in order. I hope in God this article will be rectified before the new constitution is accepted.—You ask me if any thing transpires here on the subject of S. America? Not a word. I know that there are combustible materials there, and that they wait the torch only. But this country probably will join the extinguishers.—The want of facts worth communicating to you has occasioned me to give a little loose to dissertation. We must be contented to amuse, when we cannot inform. ”

      See also: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-horwitz/thomas-jefferson-and-the_b_273800.html

  • sharron

    You must be one of the corrupted officers to how much did they pay you? Do you see how they treating your innocent officer csuse he. Tried to do the right thing they will turn on you also get real.

  • FedUpDem

    Looking for his 15 minutes!

  • http://www.facebook.com/sgt.fb Steph Thomas

    Yes…I know what you’re talking about, Guest. One of my daughters was raped at gunpoint multiple times by an LA cop. What’s needed, amongst other things, is psychological testing before they’re allowed to become part of the force. Psychologically ill people seek positions such as these (Social Work as well) to satisfy their illnesses.

  • Godsgift

    Joe Jones I thank you for sharing your testimony, know that we are over come by are testimony. And if God brought you this far He will continue to keep you and your family God bless bro!!!!

  • TheTruthIsHere

    The orginal story was post here what you heard else where may not be true!
    http://publicrelator.com/Localnews/57/new-manifesto-from-another-lapd-former-officer

  • Heidi

    This BS.
    What’s up with people in or former “positions” of authority all of the sudden coming out of the wood-works to suggest that it’s time for more gun control?
    Sounds like a bunch of “Uncle Tom” to me (the US government celebrated that propagandist piece when it came out), two black officers encouraging “reform” – that “something has to change”!?!

    Why is it that all of a sudden we’re supposed to trust our government – and I mean that at ALL of the races here – when have they treated ALL of us well? When have we ALL at the same time felt safe and secure in our country?

    Tell me when in our history has their not been extreme corruption in the highest halls of our government?
    You can’t name a date – because it doesn’t exist. Even a few of the Founding Fathers were conspiring – they usually had the title “federalist” in common.

    If you allow them to disarm you, then you will go the way of the MILLIONS in Europe and China. The largest MURDERS of citizens were at the hands of their own GOVERNMENT.

  • http://www.facebook.com/drturi.drturi Drturi DrTuri

    Please read Who Was Christopher Dorner from http://www.drturi.com/who-was-christopher-dorner/ indeed this is just the beginning of the incredible “Scorpius” forces at work I explained… I put myself in a peculiar position with two FBI agents last week trying to explain this phenomenon – read also ? Warning to The FBI – Dr. Turi and Christopher Dorner from my website and PLEASE pass it on!

  • http://www.facebook.com/drturi.drturi Drturi DrTuri

    Please read Who Was Christopher Dorner from http://www.drturi.com/who-was-christopher-dorner/ indeed this is just the beginning of the incredible “Scorpius” forces at work forcing a full re-structure of the police force! I put myself in a peculiar position with two FBI agents last week trying to explain this phenomenon – read also ? Warning to The FBI – Dr. Turi and Christopher Dorner from my website and PLEASE pass it on!

  • http://www.facebook.com/drturi.drturi Drturi DrTuri

    to read all my article about Christopher Dorner and my experience with the FBI please Google “Warning to The FBI – Dr. Turi and Christopher Dorner ” then add dr.turi

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Neal-Dias/100002840290264 Neal Dias

    Verizon and the L.A.P.D. have Many Similarities!

    Christopher Jordan Dorner is the Nations most wanted
    man right now. He has killed and injured others in what he believes is an act
    of revenge related to “Workplace Issues.”

    Revenge and Violence will “NEVER: solve anything! I do
    not believe in acting out in the manner in which he has done, and like most
    people watching the outcome of this situation, many will never ask them-selves
    the most important question – WHY? They most certainly won’t because they will
    instantly see him as a ruthless killer and that supersedes everything else.

    In order to resolve any conflict we have to find out
    the root cause to why this happened? Why would this Navy Officer, Decorated
    Veteran and Successful Man turn violent and destructive? Why would this man go
    to this extreme because in the end he knows there will be certain death? Why
    would he do this?

    A few years ago, I like most would never look or care
    about the root cause until I had experienced brutal abuse at the hands of my
    former employee “Verizon.” Now when I see events like this, and when it’s
    related to Workplace Violence, it makes me that much angrier. It makes me angry
    because in many states there are workplace bills sitting there and not getting
    passed into law, which will help to reduce or possibly stop acts like this.

    “The U.S. National Institute of Occupational Safety and
    Health states that Homicide is the second highest cause of death on the job
    after motor vehicle accidents. That amounts to every 3 cases to 10,000 workers.
    Over 2 million workers are assaulted each year and 2, 000 people are murdered.

    The answer to WHY is right here in a paragraph so
    short, but will jump out to those that have been there! He states:

    — In a lengthy letter provided by police, Dorner said
    he had been unfairly fired by the LAPD after reporting another officer for
    police brutality. He decried what he called a continuing culture of racism and
    violence within the department, and called attacks on police and their families
    a necessary evil that I do not enjoy but must partake and complete for
    substantial change to occur within the LAPD and reclaim my name.

    He will never be able to reclaim his name, and he did
    step over the line, but the L.A.P.D. will now be under investigation. The odds
    are like Verizon, it will get covered up and nothing will be done.

    Christopher was indeed blackballed, targeted after
    being a whistleblower for reporting abusive behaviors within the police
    department and the police department did nothing about it. He felt they turned
    their backs on him and retaliated. The tide was turned onto him as he was now a
    target of what he believed to be a “Wrongful Termination.” He knew that he
    would never be able to redeem himself, his dignity and his life probably fell
    apart. Everything he had, and then lost was at the hands of the police
    department he once committed his life to. This is without a doubt a “Workplace
    Violence Issue,” that should have never happened if dealt with properly.

    Understand this, once again acting out of revenge and
    violence will never be the answer – EVER! But now it is news item and we as a
    community have to say, “How can we stop this from ever happing again?”

    The answer is simple: we need stricter employment laws
    that protect workplace bullying, so victims have a way to resolve their issues
    within their companies first and never be forced into thinking they have to
    take things into their own hands. If that option does not work, then they have
    options to resolve this in the judicial system. Our forefather created laws for
    us, and guidelines to use so we do not act out of anger and murder one another.
    Murder should never have to enter into anyone’s mind to ever harm or kill a
    person to ever resolve any matter especially when it comes to workplace issues.

    I’m not saying that I cannot comprehend to what he is
    suffering with because I know the anger and frustration he feels, as I’ve been
    through it with Verizon being tormented and wrongfully terminated for complaining
    about unethical, racial and abusive managers. But I choose the high road and
    trusted in God and my judicial system. After 9 years of hell, I have a trial in
    Federal Court in Boston Massachusetts in March.

    We cannot take lives to prove our point! We do have to
    remind ourselves of what so many in our history of mankind did without acts of
    violence to make theirs. This is why I became an advocate for the “Healthy
    Workplace Bill” and wrote the President of The United States of America, to try
    and end acts like this in the Workplaces across this Country.

    Now there is a 2nd
    and 3rd Police Officer coming forward about the abusive and hostile
    work environment within the LA Police Department as well as the cover-ups and
    racism:

    ·
    http://freakoutnation.com/2013/02/11/a-second-former-lapd-officer-releases-a-manifesto/

    ·
    http://www.eurweb.com/2013/02/ex-la-cop-brian-bentley-on-dorner-manifesto-not-only-do-i-believe-it-but-i-lived-it/

    Whether it is the
    Police Department or Verizon Communication it happens! An abusive work environment exists and it’s
    ignored. Employers refuse to help their employees
    and documented wrongful terminations, abusive acts and unnecessary deaths exit
    and work.

    Because of how Mr. Christopher Jordan Dorner decided to resolve his
    Workplace Issues, his message will get lost, and now he’s considered a killer.
    This is a sad day for these families on all sides and it should have never
    happened.

    May God Bless them all.

    “The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands
    in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of
    challenge and controversy.”

    -Dr. Martin Luther King

    “The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for
    good men to do nothing.”

    -Edmund Burke

    Neal W. Dias

    774-627-4218

    Fightingfor7years@hotmail.com

    Justicefor7@yahoo.com

    My Blog Page:

    Blog Address (GOOGLE): Bullying at Verizon – Enough is
    Enough

    Facebook:

    • Justice at Verizon

    • Enough is Enough – Stop Workplace Bullying

    President Obama – Workplace Bullying Meeting

    http://justiceatverizon.wordpress.com/2012/12/11/president-obama-workplace-bullying-meeting/

    My Story:

    http://justiceatverizon.wordpress.com/2012/05/05/bullying-at-verizon/

    http://justiceatverizon.wordpress.com/2012/06/24/unjustice-at-verizon-and-the-massachusetts-commission-against-discrimination/

    My Speeches:

    Healthy Workplace Bill Press Conference in Boston
    Massachusetts July 7, 2012 (Video):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85HKgP-dfyI

    Healthy Workplace Bill Press Conference in New York
    April 30, 2012 (Video): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6pPe2gqGRI&feature=share

    Civil Rights and Anti-Bullying Leadership Summit in
    Hartford Connecticut at the Legislators Building, August 9, 2012

    **(Neal W. Dias – fast forward to 02:41:56 –
    02:56:09)**

    http://ct-n.com/ondemand.asp?ID=8061

    National Workplace Bullying Press Conference in
    Washington DC October 15th 2012

    http://youtu.be/bid5DK97rq8

    http://www.workplacebullying.org/2012/10/21/npc-dias/

    Huffington Post Article:

    Title: Verizon: Plenty Of Good Middle Class Jobs But
    Would You Want To Work There?

    http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2012/09/14/verizon-plenty-of-good-middle-class-jobs-but-would-you-want-to/

  • http://www.facebook.com/tacolar.mars Bigdog327

    LAPD’s finest!

  • TurboKitty

    A) I’m not a man and B) I’m not negro. Regardless, I believe that he’s been set up. I used to live in Los Angeles. I know what the cops are like there …

  • Cop’s Dating Victim

    Ernie, I’m an educated, white female who met a bad cop in Jefferson Parish. I was raped/beaten/guns in my mouth/knives to cut up my face/isolation for a year b/c beaten so much, kidnapped, stalked, etc etc My daughter was abused. Cops have the highest domestic violence rate in the country. Double the national average. Many are just plain angry and are cops b/c they are angry. That’s what draws them to the profession. Sooner or later , most cops nowadays take an early retirement b/c they are forced to. My bf beat up black people with his friends for a living and got their kicks that way. Even the black cop used to beat blacks with them. Unreal. Some of you people have no idea what’s going on while you are at home asleep in your bed. let someone in your family date a cop!!!!!!!!!! If there are 2 cops standing there, chances are 1 is beating his woman. Good luck to you. I thought because I was a professional, good looking, financially secure and never in trouble a day in my life that I was safe from police brutality! WRONG! I gave a cop my number and then he put a ring on my finger for ownership. It’s rough being a CUNT SLAVE FOR A RACIST ABUSIVE PIG!

  • http://www.facebook.com/JackieLVSalsa Jacqueline Flores

    Did you not read Dorner’s manifesto in its entirety or is your life so putrid and poisoned with hatred and racism that you just don’t care? Not only is he NOT targeting random people, but he spoke out against BLACK, Latino, Asians, and white cops. Therefore his problem, unlike you, has to do with crooked and corrupt cops, REGARDLESS of race.

    Now, as far as him ALLEGEDLY shooting innocent victims, that, if its true, is not the way to handle this.

    Cops should also not be shooting innocent victims. Two ladies, in a truck that did NOT match the suspects, rattled with over 40 bullets!!! Are you kidding me? Then also shooting a white male? How can they get this wrong??

    If you’re worried about being shot dead, then you should be worried about being around cops at the moment!

  • PJ McFlur

    What a disgusting comment. People like you make me ashamed to be white.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/WCVBB6GOGAXGJ64I2JHWB7XLGY Naija G.

    LMAO @ the cricket part while completely disagreeing with the rest lololol

  • negro

    no one asked what gender you are

  • TurboKitty

    I’m guessing you’re a troll, the kind that gets paid to post, from some vacant building somewhere in the heart of a dead and boring business district, a long with your co-trolls … hope it feeds your family and is worth your time … this is my last post to you … Have a nice day

  • Cop’s Dating Victim

    He’s probably a bad cop. Ignore him.

  • Guest

    Most of the cops that Psychocop worked with were/are very bad people. They are crooked . They lie on police reports. The Sheriff is a lawyer and taught them how to write police reports for this purpose. Yes, I know inside cop who told me this and QUIT!!! Appalled at a class like that. THis is a sick sick sick world and I never realized it until I went out of my part of society and stepped off my pedestal to date a PIG! Biggest mistake of my life. Now, I fear my life and safety and that of my family until I can get away from here!
    Dorner is innocent. I don’t know him. i read it. They are wanting him dead way toooooooo much to be shooting random people. They really want him dead, which from experience of being on the phone with Psychocop all night long means they are hiding something. Basically, it’s the same reason that they want to dispose of me——-witness for a federal law suit, more law suits, still 13 DA charges hanging for 10 months???? WTH???? B/c he’s a cop? I mean , geez , it’s only his 4 th different court he’d have to go to. Since we aren’t finished he’ll have a total of 6 courts to be found guilty in if i can help it.
    They want to keep screwing with me, i tried to be quiet for 2 months. Hid. Don’t drive. They still came after me. I’m done with this!! DONE!

  • Cop’s Dating Victim

    What in the fuck is your problem? Are you an abuser? Or a cop? Because you act like a royal dick. Fuck you!

  • http://www.facebook.com/JackieLVSalsa Jacqueline Flores

    Wow, I hope and wish you the best in your situation. The first and foremost thing you can do is to ensure your safety, even if that means, as you say, hiding. Stay strong and know that at the end the truth will prevail. Good luck!

  • Cop’s Dating Victim

    You copied it after it was deleted. If me and my kids die, the blood is on your hands. Find that funny. This is not a joke. They will kill me and my children and why i chose to delete this and you copy it immediately then keep reposting.
    Hope we make it til the end of the week. Two of the kids are in grade school. Think of that fact that she was beaten until needing a counselor and has to sleep with her blinds open afraid the perpretrator will return. If it makes you feel good for 3 dead white kids and their mom. DO SO! ENJOY

  • Earth Angel

    I also know someone who was married to a cop…exact same thing…also they are the BIGGEST ALCOHOLICS & DRUG USERS…a very DANGEROUS MIX on top of some type of MENTAL PROBLEM

  • nobody

    The ring you wear is not a chain or slave collar. When the kids come home, leave. Seek protection. It’s out there, use it.