Sen. John McCain to Fox host: Let’s have a little straight talk. The shutdown is the GOP’s fault

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) opened a can of maverick on Friday during an appearance on Fox News, repeatedly reminding the host that the government shutdown was brought about by the GOP-led effort to halt the Affordable Care Act.

Anchor Martha MacCallum asked McCain about the White House’s handling of the suspension of death benefits to military families. The Arizona Senator explained that while the Obama administration deserves blame, it was however, a GOP-induced shutdown that caused the problem in the first place.

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He said, “Let’s have a little straight talk, Martha. [The administration] wouldn’t have had the opportunity to handle it that way if we had not shut down the government on a fool’s errand that we were not going to accomplish. The whole premise of shutting down the government was the repeal of Obamacare. I fought against Obamacare harder than any of the people who wanted to shut down the government.”

TPM reports, “McCain’s appearance on Fox came shortly after Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), the leader of the movement to defund the health care law, spoke at the Values Voter Summit.”

The interview closed with McCain rattling off a number of proposals that are “achievable” for Republicans.

“Defunding Obamacare is not one of them,” he said emphatically.

“Well, we’ll see,” MacCallum said, prompting sarcastic laughter from the senator.

“I guarantee it,” McCain said. “Not only will you see, I guarantee it.”

Watch:

MacCallum is grasping at the notion that defunding Obamacare is within reach. It’s not going to happen.

  • BanditBasheert

    Backdoor smackdown to Cruz – McCain HATES Cruz – has hated him for ages. Thinks Cruz is killing the GOP. Every so often McCain comes out and says or does the right thing (he never does them both at the same time). The Senate is supposed to be the grownups….Senators “earn their bones” – he sees Cruz as someone dangerous for the country otherwise he’d just keep his mouth shut.
    Coming from the douchebag who introduced Sarah Palin to the lexicon of political garbage .. his credibility is shaky. If he apologizes for THAT mistake, he might have more credibility.
    I don’t like McCain – but he does CARE .. and he’s trying to burnish his image so he is remembered fondly when he retires.

    • juicyfruityyy

      McInsane, the Queen, and McCarthy, Jr are all the same. They change course when the purpose suits them. McInsane cares about himself. He doesn’t like the fact that, McCarthy Jr., is being seen as the leader. He sees himself, as the go to person, because of his years in the Senate. Everyone knows that his seat was bought for him. And very few people are going to remember him fondly; no matter what he does.

      • BanditBasheert

        I disagree. McCain once in awhile does the right thing. Palin NEVER does anything right – don’t forget the 230+ seniors who died because she wouldn’t sign the native healthcare bill…she’s a walking Death Panel on her own. As far as Cruz – he disgusts most rational human beings. Aside from sounding like an annoying mosquito in a cabin in the woods, the man is hateful. He scares me to death – I REMEMBER McCarthy – a nastier uglier human being in the world has never existed.
        On the other hand, he died a cheap forgotten drunk …
        TailGunnerCruz can go the same way for all I care …

        • juicyfruityyy

          Just because he threw out a few brownies, for people to nipple on, doesn’t change who is he. Some people don’t forget. He is our Senator. We have a right to expect more from him.

          I have not forgotten what I’ve learned about the Queen and McCarthy, Jr. But if they were to try to be in a position, to seek world power. I would be stumping the ground, even harder, to make sure they were not elected. The same that I did with, McInsane.

  • tiredoftea

    Those guys really hate it when someone tells the truth to them!.

  • juicyfruityyy

    Everyone knows you was behind the #shutdown. The poll, yesterday, finally proved what most people have been saying. The voters, also proved that, they made a wise decision by not electing, McInsane. He had a chance to do something good as the Senator. Now, I do wish that he would just retire.

    • BanditBasheert

      Honestly when the GOP put Palin on the ticket, women all over the US hurled….we do NOT vote for someone unqualified just because she has (or had) a vagina. She was all popular – and then she opened that ignorant hateful mouth.
      John McCain OWES this country bigtime – if he had been elected, he would not be alive.

      • zane1

        Agree….too late now for the big guy.

      • juicyfruityyy

        I’m not certain what ,McInsane’s, statue would of been if he was elected. My purpose for stumping those grounds, was to make sure that we never found out.
        What he owes this country is the truth, an apology, and his resignation.

  • alan carter

    I’m an UNASHAMED liberal to the bone. But I always like John McCain, not for his views but for his “humanness”. I honestly feel he is a person who wants to do good for the common person.

    • BanditBasheert

      Once in awhile, his humanity shows up. If you really are interested in “who” and “what” he is, you need to read The Real McCain by Cliff Schecter.
      He got where his is because his father/grandfather were Admirals – otherwise he wouldn’t even have gotten into the Navy. He crashed FIVE planes before he was finally captured by the Viet Cong. He was a heavy drinker and party guy from his youth. He scored 5th from the BOTTOM at the academy – he divorced his wife (who stood by him when he was a POW) when she was facially disfigured in an accident and married Cindy Lu – heir to Budweiser. She bought and paid for the Goldwater Seat (which he still holds).
      There is very little to LIKE about him…on a personal level. Like many politicians, he has bought, paid for and clawed his way to the top. Once in awhile he has a wave of nostalgia and gets pissed about something and goes all righteous on everyone.
      It’s an aberration – it won’t continue…

    • condocaine

      I used to, but he became bizarre wanting to be pres then right after, but maybe we got the old john back,

    • zane1

      Oh please. He has shown himself to be a heartless pragmatic who has chosen himself over country every single time. He should have spoken out after the election about Palin & silenced her. She has played a big role in the racist hate that has gone on & he had the duty to reveal her for who she really is & he chose to save himself & his bad decision.

  • mea_mark

    The only way out of this mess the republicans have created for themselves is to find a fall guy. Perhaps that is why the republicans want a six week extension to this mess. They need time to somehow pin this whole thing on Cruz, so they don’t take so much heat and lose lots of elections in the next cycle. McCain is mad enough to start the process, now let’s see who starts jumping on board this life boat and abandons the sinking Cruz ship of ignorance.

    • BanditBasheert

      I’m for anything that destroys this asshat’s “career” – we all saw narcissism in full bloom with Palin – if possible Cruz is even more delusional that Snowdrift Snookie ever was.
      My own personal opinion is that having the mentally ill in charge of the money is a BAD move for the country.

      • zane1

        I wan them GONE. I am so sick of listening to their insanity.

      • FrankleeMiDeer

        “Snowdrift Snookie.” Definitely stealing that.

    • condocaine

      or the republicans “man up” admit the screwed up and move on.. that would be the “adult” thing

  • ecbucs

    I’ve seen more commentators write that it is absolutely in the realm of the House to defund Obamacare. Thomas Sowell’s wrote about this yesterday. He and others are missing the point that the House has already voted to fund Obamacare so in fact it is the House Republicans that are holding a temper tantrum trying to pass a new funding bill that doesn’t include Obamacare.

    The Republican efforts to defund have no more chance of passage than if they were trying to say that they want to give everyone in the country a million dollars.

    • BanditBasheert

      well said – our Constitution doesn’t say that everyone has to give in when a bunch of whiny pantysniffers go all menopausal and tosses a temper tantrum.

      Are these the BEST the GOP can come up with? If you, the Dems are in NO trouble.

  • Rebecca Anne Inkster

    I think the Teabaggers are going to try to pass the buck and blame Boehner solely. He may be doing as much as he can to help, but it’s the Teapublicans as a whole who need to be taken down!

  • http://www.terrimolina.com/ Terri Molina

    So, once they get it all straightened out and put people back to work can we Fire them all??!! (meaning congress not the people going back to work.)

    • BanditBasheert

      yes
      we should.
      I am not quite as angry at the Dems because for the first time I’ve ever seen, they absolutely held fast on a position without collapsing in tears. The possibility they’d give everything away without a fight scares most people.
      The GOP – let them destroy themselves. They’re well on their way …

    • mea_mark

      In 2014.

      • fel121

        DAMN STRAIGHT!

  • Dee Berube

    WHAT A TRAITOR!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am absolutely disgusted by this man. I wonder how long he has been “sleeping with Obama” in order to come out and say this with a straight face. Obamacare is not something we should all be so quick to accept — I get that we need affordable health care, but someone has a different idea of affordable than I do. I finally managed to get information about “cost” and a plan on the market place, in bronze, will cost me $368.00 A MONTH…. for my husband and I. That’s a $6000 out of pocket before the insurance kicks in and and only covers 60%. Obamacare is not what we all think…. and it’s certainly not affordable!!!

    • condocaine

      what was your cost before?, lets talk apples to apples or where u waiting to sponge of the rest of us and not pay your bills?

      • zane1

        Don’t know the particulars, but 368 a month is not bad. Prior to ACA many are paying over 1,000 for one w/o any health problems. It’s 184 a person. Wonder if they wanted the rest of us to pay for their health issues.

        • Guest

          Thank you for a least being civil in your response. It’s appreciated.

      • Guest

        I have worked everyday since I was 14 years old, I am now 51. I don’t sponge off of anybody. thank you for your reply.

    • Laurel Sayler

      Lmao. You must live in a GOP run state. Your governor screwed you, not the president. Grow up.

      • Guest

        Good Call. TEXAS… however, I am not a Republican. I am a on the fence kind of gal…. Independent… Just curious… how did our governor screw us? and I’m quite grown up, at 51, and I too get to speak my mind. Freedom of speech and all.

        • Jodi Kasapidis

          Freedom of speech does not equal intelligence of speech now does it 😛

    • Robert Brophy

      Dee, thank you for proving what I say about Republicans all the time: They love to march in lockstep. How DARE McCain think for himself! Dee, I am absolutely disgusted by people like you, but I am becoming numb to your type.

      • Guest

        You’re wrong.. not a Republican… but I guess it’s easy to assume… since I don’t agree with the lot of you commenting here… speaking of being “lockstep”.

    • excaliburr

      Are you seriously complaining? My Bronze Plan will cost me $501 a month – just for ME, no one else. I’ve never paid less than $368 a month for me and my dependent son when he was a minor.

      • Guest

        Hi excaliburr… Don’t know that I’m complaining as much as I am shocked…. My insurance through my employer is cheaper…. I hope I get to keep it… worried though. Luckily for us we don’t use the insurance, never had a need… pretty healthy. I’m horrified at the cost I see people quoting here… Some of these amounts are as high as my mortgage. I’m really worried.

    • Curtrena Webster

      Wow! $368 a month! I was paying more than that for myself alone! So I assume you currently have no insurance and expect the insured to pay higher premiums to offset your lack of insurance. hum??

      • Guest

        nice assumption… are you proud of yourself for reaching that conclusion. You are very wrong… next time ask.. don’t assume. I would have been glad to explain. I’m worried, very worried.

      • http://comgen.blogspot.com/ ComGen

        Step-Father in NC was paying over $600.00 month prior to 2010 law for basic plan, which did not cover much – 50/50 I think and high deductible. After insurance co-pay, ded., etc he was still spending roughly $700-850.00 Insurance + meds [ most diabetic meds not covered ]. The policy he was able secure this month will run him $325.00 month middle-plan [ 70/30 I think ] with prescription $10/25.00 co pay and all of his doctors and meds are now covered plus [ read the law see our sidebar for link ] he now has consumer protection. Before he has been dropped several times due to sickness and/or decided to pay out of pocket or with credit cards since it was cheaper, unless and luckily he never had major hospital stay, etc. Mother was in the same boat prior to 2010, she was dropped due to ” expense ” on her end for breast cancer and lung health. At the time she was also paying around $500 month for basic plan–both parents could NOT at the time get insured with anyone in the state [ cheaper ] She has since paid off her medical expense with credit cards and small loan she took out. Today [ retired now ] she pays less than $75-150 month with little or no out of pocket, meds for her breathing used to run with Ins. $80.00 month now $15.00. And this is in NC where we are only under partial Health Care Reform. Family in states that do fully comply, have reported $75-$150.00 on average for a descent plan after subsidies. Other members in states similar to NC rates are $275-$400.00.

    • Guest

      Let me make an assumption like all of you who have commented have: Now I know where all the strongly Democrat people have been hanging out. My current employer plan (Yes, I have a job, yes I know my employer pays part of my insurance, yes I pay my bills, yes I pay my taxes, I’m an Independent and still think McCain is a traitor for what he said. I would like to see just one politician take ownership for their part in the mess and not blame someone else – isn’t McCain a Republican, so he’s blaming his party but not himself. I am definitely NOT a Democrat, any other insults you want to assume you might know i’ll be glad to clarify… Oh yes I live in Texas…so Red state was true.. good call ) I pay $270.00 a month, with a $1000.00 out of pocket expense per year. I am hoping that I get to keep my full time status and my benefits. I am worried about the rumors I keep hearing in my own workplace about how hours may be cut and plans may have to change based upon Obamacare. I keep hearing how Obamacare is supposed to make this more affordable… I don’t know how much the rest of you are making… I’m assuming now, a lot more than me since you are paying the equivalent of my mortgage to have health insurance. I don’t claim to know the answers, but I am concerned about $17,000,000,000,000.00 in debt and wonder how Obamacare fits into all this and why we didn’t get to vote on such a massive plan….

      • Hope Allen

        People must quit calling it Obamacare. It’s the Affordable Care Act. It was voted into law by the people we elected to Congress. It was upheld as constitutional by the Supreme Court. It allows all people affordable insurance. Some pay more because they make more. It will keep people who can’t afford insurance from applying for disability, which is a monthly check plus free insurance. Won’t that help reduce our deficit?.

    • fel121

      How dare you call a Vet and a POW a traitor, what kind of eff’d world do you come from when, just because someone doesn’t follow you and Rush Limpballs every command they are suddenly a traitor despite their service, body and soul to this country.

      You fvcked up sick little troll, you are a disgrace.

      • Dee Berube

        My husbands a Vet too… I have all sorts of respect for McCain’s past…it’s his present that concerns me. Maybe I shouldn’t have called him a traitor… back stabber is more like it. Either way, your final comment tells me everything I need to or want to know about you. Have a great day.

    • AJP2565

      Guest? Okay go get your nickel someone else, because they don’t have an alternative and this was their plan from the start. Single payer is coming and we will all be better for it!

    • americanwoman343

      It’s affordable, not free. The last time I tried to pay for COBRA, it was $1100 a month

    • Roger Schramm

      I would kill for $368 a month, we are paying over $600 just for my wife, under ACA, i will be paying less than $300 for BOTH of us !!!

    • Hope Allen

      McCain has more courage, backbone, and character than you could ever hope for.. He’s too old to run for President so he doesn’t have to lie, cheat, and be dishonest ike all the other politicians. $368 a month for a husband and wife is awesome. Most pay over $500/month for COBRA just for one.

    • jkarov

      You are a delusional person, and need to do your own research. Without OBamacare, your pre-existing conditions can cost you big time.

      Health care in the USA is the most expensive among 1st world countries because we allow these
      thieving corporations like United Health and CIgna, and Blue Cross to be run FOR PROFIT.

      Health care executives get 10 million dollar salaries off the backs of poor and middle class people’s sickness and misery.

      A single payer system like Medicare for everyone is what should have passed the Congress, but the right wing would never want everyone to have health insurance.

      Trust me, $368 a month is peanuts compared to what you’d pay without a subsidized plan.

    • Angela Peterson

      That sure is better than the $13,000 – that’s right 3 zeros…that I’m paying right now for EMPLOYER PROVIDED health care. well over $1000 a month. most of my “pre-existing conditions” are not covered and it’s a 60/40 plan to boot. So $368 a month?? To that I say: Yes please!! By the way – I used to work for BCBS. They make the rules so that they keep collecting premiums and do everything they can to NOT pay. That’s how they make their money.

  • Kevin Rochelle

    McCain is a silly old goat, still living in the early 1960s. That said, he is about 5x smarter than any teabagger idiot, and the nerve of this dumb blonde bitch attempting to refute what is obvious fact to anyone with a brain cell simply summarizes the problem of Fox: To appeal to total dumbasses, you have to be a dumbass.

  • Penny Semmens Sedlacek

    Stop with the Obamacare repeal talk that is going nowhere and come up with a budget PRONTO and DO YOUR JOB, Senators and Congressmen. Getting sick and tired of these rich guys and their special interests. I personally would fire all of them and start over..

  • http://www.facebook.com/stephanie.starkey1 Stephanie Starkey

    Anyone else notice the withering glower on MacCallum’s face as the interview closed?

    • Tom Butler

      YES! I thought I saw that and looked at it twice. ‘Just must be SO frustrating for her. LOL!

  • David Brantley

    You get 80% of the cost of your obamacare coverage rebated back to you so your freak out is completely unnecessary and makes you look hysterical and misinformed.

  • Georgiann Kite

    I am a Democrat, I love our President and I believe in the ACA. Like any new plan it will need to be shook out so to speak. I also dislike John McCain for the most part. However, the man is anything but a Traitor! He gave his all in the Vietnam war, was captured, tortured and years later still has physical problems. I admire him to break rank so to speak and talk sense. The ACA is already funded, it’s the law, verified by the Supreme Court. People need to grow up and move on!. I have worked all my life as well. I am 56 and have been unemployed for over a year. I have diabetes and have to use insulin. Without having healthcare, my insulin vials at my current dosage cost $176.00 a bottle that last 12 days apiece.If it were not for a lucky break due to ACA, I would still be paying for them. For me and millions like me this is a Godsend. I had to put those medical expenses on my credit cards to the tune of $3,000 before I got some relief.

  • Gina M. Nardoianni

    Dee, I’m surprised by some of what you say. To begin with, my husband and I pay close to $800 a month for the two of us to be covered by a 70/30 health insurance plan, with $3000 a year out of pocket expenses. Our health insurance has been going up steadily since forever and a day. We live in Virginia, and we are in the same age bracket as you, give or take a couple of years.
    Secondly, you say you hope you get to keep your insurance with your employer. The ACA doesn’t tell you that you have to switch carriers. Actually, the ACA is for people who don’t have insurance, or whose employers don’t provide them insurance.
    I would say that if your employer is fortunate enough to have a business that is thriving to a degree that he/she can employ 50 or more persons, but decides to cut hours so that he/she doesn’t have to provide health insurance for the very people who work to keep their business a thriving success, you might acknowledge that it is your employer who is out to wish you ill will, not this president. An employer who decides to cut workers hours as a ploy to avoid paying health insurance is nothing new. That has been going on for decades and decades. But an employer who blames it on “Obamacare” is abusing his status as employer to make a political statement, because he believes he can sway the opinion of 50 or more persons under him by intimidation. I would ask you to consider that.
    Third, if you are fall into a certain income bracket that makes this premium seem astronomical to you, it is very likely you qualify for reduced payments. I believe the health care calculator gives you the cost for each of these individual plans BEFORE the subsidies are factored in.
    I don’t think you should worry so much. The way I see it, I will either be paying the same as I am now, or I will be paying less. I think there is a very small percentage of people (I believe I have heard 2%) that will end up paying more – people who draw a very healthy income fall into this category.
    Cheer up, and embrace the change that the ACA brings. At least I know now that my insurance company will have to spend at least 80% of the premiums I pay on my healthcare, and if not, I will be reimbursed. THAT has NEVER happened in my lifetime.
    Good luck to you.

    • Cyndi Romero Vasco

      Well said Gina!!

      • Gina M. Nardoianni

        why, thank you Cyndi!

  • AJP2565

    So your shopping Obamacare even though you have insurance through your employer? We did get to vote. In fact we got to vote twice for it.

  • AJP2565

    Lots of bad choices in life there Guest? Living in Texas while poor would be one to add to that list too!

  • Gina M. Nardoianni

    I mistakenly addressed this reply to Dee (don’t know where I came up with that) but I am reposting here, where it was intended to be:

    I’m surprised by some of what you say. To begin with, my husband and I pay close to $800 a month for the two of us to be covered by a 70/30 health insurance plan, with $3000 a year out of pocket expenses. Our health insurance has been going up steadily since forever and a day. We live in Virginia, and we are in the same age bracket as you, give or take a couple of years.
    Secondly, you say you hope you get to keep your insurance with your employer. The ACA doesn’t tell you that you have to switch carriers. Actually, the ACA is for people who don’t have insurance, or whose employers don’t provide them insurance.
    I would say that if your employer is fortunate enough to have a business that is thriving to a degree that he/she can employ 50 or more persons, but decides to cut hours so that he/she doesn’t have to provide health insurance for the very people who work to keep their business a thriving success, you might acknowledge that it is your employer who is out to wish you ill will, not this president. An employer who decides to cut workers hours as a ploy to avoid paying health insurance is nothing new. That has been going on for decades and decades. But an employer who blames it on “Obamacare” is abusing his status as employer to make a political statement, because he believes he can sway the opinion of 50 or more persons under him by intimidation. I would ask you to consider that.
    Third, if you are fall into a certain income bracket that makes this premium seem astronomical to you, it is very likely you qualify for reduced payments. I believe the health care calculator gives you the cost for each of these individual plans BEFORE the subsidies are factored in.
    I don’t think you should worry so much. The way I see it, I will either be paying the same as I am now, or I will be paying less. I think there is a very small percentage of people (I believe I have heard 2%) that will end up paying more – people who draw a very healthy income fall into this category.
    Cheer up, and embrace the change that the ACA brings. At least I know now that my insurance company will have to spend at least 80% of the premiums I pay on my healthcare, and if not, I will be reimbursed. THAT has NEVER happened in my lifetime.
    Good luck to you.

    • Gina M. Nardoianni

      I also meant to add to the reply above, that I was also surprised that you said you don’t know why we didn’t get to vote on such a “massive” plan. (health care structure in this country is far more massive currently than it need be, and far more massive than the ACA is designed to be).
      We did get to vote on the issue, particularly through the 2012 election campaign, when Mitt Romney ran under the pretense that if he was elected president, he would defund “Obamacare”. Despite that promise, Americans by a margin of 5 million more voters chose to elect Barack Obama instead, with his promise of providing health care for 30 million uninsured Americans.

  • Linda Walker

    He is a Traitor —-Poker Joe got to go—We need to stop paying this jokers salary….

    • Dennis Speek

      Linda, with all due respect (which is zero in your case) That is one of the most honest things that man has ever said. I have two things for you. One is that the TeaParty is quite literally a traitorous organization and needs to be dealt with. Two is this little gem that just might be the tool that IS used.

      Seditious Conspiracy (18 U.S.C. s 2384) is a crime under
      United States law, as follows:

      “If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any
      place subject to jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put
      down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy
      war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force* to
      prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by
      force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to
      the authority therof, they shall each be fined or imprisoned not more than 20
      years, or both”

      ·
      “force” in this case is the refusal to fund the
      government for the purpose of hindering the execution of the Affordable Care
      Act.

      Enjoy Linda….

    • rurugby

      Really traitor? In a democracy. What absurd and ridiculous language.

    • Earlene

      this traitor is speaking the truth. you forgot just a few short years ago you wanted him for president. Now that he is telling the truth about the republican party you call him a traitor

  • zane1

    I don’t know your situation, but if I were you I would possibly check with an insurance agent. Last year I got my ins. incredibly screwed (medicare) & when the time came I went to an agent & everything is great now. ACA is not perfect, we have tried since Bill Clinton was first elected to get something done. The Ins. companies have made over 10 billion basically robbing the American public & we know why they want to keep the status quo. Keep researching…..maybe McCain is not a traitor, but he most certainly is a worm. I have little respect for him & his lack of integrity. Good luck.

  • Adam J. Reizner

    Instead of offering to explain how about you just explain what she got wrong.

    I received a letter from my employer stating that nothing in our health plans is going to change. Premiums this year remain at the level they were last year. We can leave the company plan if we choose but the company is under no obligation to contribute because a plan that exceeds minimum standards is already offered and subsidized.

    I looked at the marketplace for comparison’s sake. The silver plan on the marketplace offered primary doctor visits with no copay (I currently pay $35.00) Specialist copays of $50.00 which is the same, and no copay on generic prescriptions. All this for $548.00 for my wife and I. Considering that my coverage is covered about 95% by my emplyer and covering my wife adds about $300 per month the plan through the exchange would cost about $200.00 per month less than the total cost of my plan including what my employer pays toward it. What this means is that the ACA over time will lower the cost of health insurance premiums. The ACA, while I believe it should be a single payer system, is a compromise that can be lived with for now.

    With regard to call McCain a traitor you are way off base. I do not have any great love for the man. There are plenty of accounts that display that he was not the great hero that he is often credited with. Regardless of any of that the man loves this country. While I ideologically disagree with him on most things I respect that he believes what he is doing is right for the country. For him to come out and say that defeating the PPACA is not possible may not be popular with the people that believe the ACA should be repealed but you should appreciate his honesty. “Elections have consequences” is what he’s been saying for months. It is true and he’s trying to explain that to you unlike Ted Cruz who wants you to believe in his Quixotic dream of defunding it. It won’t pass the Senate and even if it did the President would veto it. So the message that GOP legislators should get, while complaining how the administration spends wastefully, is to stop spending money wastefully voting 46 times to repeal a law that won’t even be voted on in the Senate let alone make it to the President’s desk to be stamped “VETO.”

  • zane1

    You must remember that this is mostly Bush’s debt not Obama’s. All the GOP have excellent insurance & they are getting paid during the shutdown. It doesn’t seem fair to me. McCain is a charlatan & he sees that his side is not winning thus his leap of faith. Another thing…if you grow the economy like Krugman says things will change. We have got to start spending money, putting people back to work & giving then health ins.

    • rurugby

      The debt goes far, far back. You could do the actually sane thing like California and RAISE taxes (yes really) and cut spending. That way we can slow deficits down finally.

    • Brandi

      Well right now, people with jobs aren’t allowed to return to them because the GOP threw a temper tantrum.

  • tim greco

    Kills these rightwing idiots to see that the whole world sees them for the fools they are now. Brain dead void of facts, logic and a conscience.

  • zane1

    Yep, it kind of warms the heart.

  • rurugby

    “Fair and Balanced” is one of the most ridiculous slogans in America. It’s not even fair and balanced now between the right and hard right.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=689392135 Richard Shepard

    Hahahahaha!

  • Brandi

    Please go read the Affordable Health Care Act.. the bill is on the internet, for all to read.. A good portion of the assumptions and statements being made are incorrect. Go do your own research, get informed, stop listening to what the people on the news ((any station say)). The firs thing I heard about the ACHA aka the affordable health care act was, No one read the ACHA, there is too much in it, but they where 100% sure it is bad, all in the same breath.. Which was almost as silly as Romney saying, “I don’t know what I said, but if I said it I stand behind it 100%.” So please, go educate yourselves. The only thing the ACHA will hurt is the Republicans pockets because they won’t be able to charge 100% and up for all things medical, in case the next person in line gets sick.. They seem to be acting scared that the bill will excellent for the American people so of course they want to fight it tooth and nail, they want to have another Republican President at some point. Too bad they do not realize what they are doing to the country is insuring they never get another Republican President, and people are starting to see their lies for what they are. Even McCain is admitting the GOP started the government shut down to end the ACHA and it’s a fight they have no chance of winning. And they only believed they could win is because they started buying into their silly idea that President Obama being some sort of weak socialist. The Affordable Health Care Act was so unpopular they can’t keep the web-page from crashing due to the amount of people trying to sign up. 80% of the money your insurance provider spends MUST be spent on your healthcare, if it is not you get a check back.. There will be no more preexisting conditions recognized, people will not have to choose between keeping their apartment or getting medical attention, Parents can keep their children insured till age 26.. by 2015 the part of the bill that states companies can not force part time employment to keep from insuring employee’s will be activated.. so on and so fourth.. read the bill, the GOP is lying saying it will hurt the economy, and isn’t good for the people. They have vested interest in it not working.. they own the insurance companies and the rest of the medical industry, and buy hospital wings as donations.. So seriously read the bill, do your own research then come back and state your opinion.

    • Geoffrey Harris

      Just wanted to repeat a couple of your closing points. “Read the bill. The GOP is lying by saying it will hurt the economy, and that it isn’t good for the people. They have a vested interest in it not working. The republicans own the insurance companies and the rest of the medical industry, and buy hospital wings as donations. So seriously read the bill. Do your own research then come back and state your opinion.”

  • standbehindtheyellowline

    I think they call independents such as you “REPUBLICANS”.

  • SocraticGadfly

    Actually, it will also hurt the effort to have real, single-payer national health care instead of something that was written by the health insurance industry for the health insurance industry. The person who went on to be a lead lobbyist for AHIP and was then on **Democratic** Sen. Max Baucus’ staff took the lead in writing Obamacare, therefore the GOP does NOT “own the insurance companies.”

    And, while website visit numbers are part of the “crashing” problem, no, the main reason is crappy software that wasn’t tested in advance.

    So, please do some additional research yourself.

  • http://leftsideannie.wordpress.com/ Leftside_Annie

    Like *all* cowardly Republicans – the only time they can tell the truth is when it doesn’t cost them anything. Grampy can tell the truth now – when 78% of Americans are saying the same thing. #FAIL

  • David R Silva

    Agreed. “Please go read the Affordable Health Care Act.. the bill is on the internet, for all to read…” Republicans know that no one reads anything about anything so they can say whatever they want to say about the Obama care in order to blame the President and win what they have legally lost.
    With the Government shut-down they went a little too far, people who have never pay attention or cared about being informed are starting to figure out their lies, and this will certainly hurt them on the elections.

  • David R Silva

    Republicans know that no one reads anything about anything so they can say whatever they want to say about the Obama care in order to blame the President and win what they have legally lost.
    With the Government shut-down they went a little too far, people who have never paid attention or cared about being informed are starting to figure out their lies, and this will certainly hurt them on the elections.

  • Mike David Chambers

    You dumbacrapts are abunch of dumbass pussies

  • http://FreakoutNation.com/ Anomaly 100

    Let me explain stuff to you. First off, you are not banned for incorrectly calling us pussies while you’re acting like a little pussy, but it’s because you can’t spell. I held *your other comment back too.

    Don’t come back here. You’re welcome!