Kansas seeks to force doctors to report women’s miscarriages to the state health department

Republicans insist the War on Women is a fabricated stunt to undermine their party. Well thank goodness for that because it means the following isn’t’ really happening even though it is.

So much self-deemed small-Government Republicans.

Sen. Mary Pilcher-Cook (KS-R) (Image: Daily News)

Sen. Mary Pilcher-Cook (KS-R) (Image: Daily News)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Think Progress reports:

A bill advancing in Kansas would mandate reporting for miscarriages at any stage in pregnancy, the first step along the path to criminalizing pregnant women’s bodies. Under an amendment attached to HB 2613 — which was originally intended to update the state’s procedure for issuing birth certificates for stillborn babies — doctors would be required to report all of their patients’ miscarriages to the state health department.

Sen. Mary Pilcher-Cook (R), one of the most zealous pro-choice opponents in Kansas, tacked on the miscarriage reporting requirement just last week. It’s so extreme that the bill’s original author is withdrawing his support from his own legislation.

Kansas Rep. John Doll (R) told ThinkProgress,“I can’t support the bill as it was amended. I think it waters it down and makes it into a political statement. I wanted a bill to help give closure to some families — I didn’t want it to have anything to do with pro-life or pro-choice issues.”

When you open a can of worms, what do you think comes out?

  • http://comgen.blogspot.com/ ComGen

    Crab cakes ?

    • http://FreakoutNation.com/ Anomaly 100

      How I read that: “I, Comgen, haz crabs.”

      • http://comgen.blogspot.com/ ComGen

        Yous asked a question and I answeredededed. BTW ! still not here, stuck further down into the meeting hell hole :-(

        • http://FreakoutNation.com/ Anomaly 100

          It’s not my fault yous have crabs. I am innocent.

          • tiredoftea

            Getting ready to blame this on RJ?

          • http://FreakoutNation.com/ Anomaly 100

            Well DUH!

          • tiredoftea

            OK, just confirming your evil ways.

          • Shanasmiles

            Crabs are delicious.

          • http://FreakoutNation.com/ Anomaly 100

            Not those kind:-)

          • Shanasmiles

            Teehee… Crotch crustaceans aren’t nearly as delicious dipped in clarified butter…

  • Sally

    Maggots?

  • FanOfTravel

    But,but, I thought the repubs were for smaller gov’t and less involvement.

    • tiredoftea

      Vagina’s are small. And, the probe guy is out of office, so the “involvement” is theoretical.

  • tiredoftea

    “When you open a can of worms, what do you think comes out?” Extreme right wing fringe rethugs?

  • paulmckc

    Off Topic, I’m so proud of this state, the chairwoman of the Kansas Senate Health Committee performed a live sonogram in front of the legislators on the floor of the state capitol, so the legislators could watch it on a three foot monitor. This was to mark the anniversary of Roe vs Wade and introduce a bill that would ban surrogate pregnancies in the state of Kansas!
    Gee, what’s next a live proctology exam for men?

    • http://www.tumblr.com/blog/akinsc Carla Akins

      Come on Paul, it’s Kansas.If backwards thought it would help him ban abortions, build a chapel or be re-elected, he would be all over it. Such a delightful bunch.

  • Yenta

    Just an FYI, but New York State Health Dept. has had this requirement for many years. I worked there about 12 years ago, and managed the Birth Certificate Dept. A lot of information goes into that database.

  • http://www.the-trades.com rjcarter

    Okay, so why am I surprised that miscarriages aren’t already reported? Isn’t that how the birth rate and infant mortality statistics are recorded?

    • Gindy51

      In order to qualify as a mortality, someone has to be alive. You know breathing, etc. A miscarried fetus never took a single breath. Birth rate and infant mortality are for LIVE births and LIVING children who die.

      • http://www.the-trades.com rjcarter

        Technically, it’s only a miscarriage if it occurs prior to the 20th week.

        But my point is, aren’t all medical events recorded and reported somewhere (assuming a hospital is ever involved)?

        • Areoth

          Nope. There is no legal requirement for a woman suffering from a miscarriage to reporrt it to her doctor. She of course should go see her doctor, but the doctor does not need to report that to anyone. Likewise he would not have to report to anyone if she is on birth control pills, had a pap smear, a mole removed or any other non-public health related issue.

        • http://www.tumblr.com/blog/akinsc Carla Akins

          Kansas currently uses something called “stillborn certificate” which is how this got started. A rookie politician proposed 2613 after speaking with some constituents that had lost a child in a late stage pregnancy. It was designed as a piece of feel-good legislature to give grieving parents an acknowledgement of their loss.

          Of course until Mary the anti-christ Pilcher Cook got a hold of the proposal. I’m pretty sure this woman must be possessed by demons, for I can find no other reason for her actions.

          Any-hoo, each state reports differently. At best it’s a generalization anyway as some women can miscarry and not even know they’re pregnant and/or choose not report to their doctor. Of course, most women head straight to the ER or Dr office at the first sign of trouble and any pertinent reportable data is handled by medical professionals.

        • BanditBasheert

          I never went to a hospital – my miscarriages happened at home and I went to my physician’s office.
          And “technically” – a miscarriage is between a woman and her physician, and her husband if she chooses – in most cases, husbands do NOT hang out in a physician examining room. Well, maybe some do.
          IF a woman wants a Stillborn Certificate, it should be possible to obtain one…if the State doesn’t laugh you out the door.
          When men have babies, AND miscarriages, they can discuss this. Otherwise they really need to keep their opinions to themselves.

          • http://www.the-trades.com rjcarter

            You know, I am sick to death of the whole “when men can…” argument. If you want men out of it, then let us out of it all the way. Do it all on your own. You’ve come a long way, baby, and you don’t need us or our money to do your own thing.

    • BanditBasheert

      Are you kidding?
      I had FIVE miscarriages (one a set of twins) – all before 4 months- and no way would that be reported. They were spontaneous and my physician made sure that I was otherwise healthy. It is not the business of the State … I very much wanted more children but was not able to have them.
      Also too, HIPPA – doctors cannot provide this information in any way, shape or form that may in any way allude to a woman’s identification.

  • http://myshambhalavillage.wordpress.com Paul Frank

    Just received this comment below from David Paul Bomar on Facebook:

    “misleading again…At the request of one of his local Commonwealth’s Attorneys, Senator Obenshain carried legislation (SB 962 of 2009) dealing with a specific law enforcement issue. As sometimes happens, the legislation that emerged was far too broad, and would have had ramifications that neither he nor the Commonwealth’s Attorney’s office ever intended. Senator Obenshain is strongly against imposing any added burden for women who suffer a miscarriage, and that was never the intent of the legislation. He explored possible amendments to address the bill’s unintended consequences, and met with representatives of both Planned Parenthood and NARAL Pro-Choice in an attempt to identify a solution. Ultimately, however, he was not satisfied that any amendment could sufficiently narrow the scope of the bill to eliminate these unintended consequences, so he had the bill stricken at his own request.”

    Cheers Warrior

    • http://www.tumblr.com/blog/akinsc Carla Akins

      Yes, we know that was not the intent of the original legislation presented. It was after Pilcher-Cook decided to add an amendment to the proposal that it got wonky. Her response was something like “too bad, he’ll learn this is the way it works”. She’s a complete nut job and I’m fairly certain a sadist.

      • http://myshambhalavillage.wordpress.com Paul Frank

        Thank you very much Carla.

        • http://www.tumblr.com/blog/akinsc Carla Akins

          You’re welcome. I live in Kansas City so I get to hear Mary’s ideas on practically a daily basis. She’s a peach.

          • http://myshambhalavillage.wordpress.com Paul Frank

            What’s the price of admission?

          • http://www.tumblr.com/blog/akinsc Carla Akins

            Your soul. :-)

  • tiredoftea

    So, no one has told her that approx. 25% of pregnancies spontaneously abort, naturally? She would compel doctors to report this natural process and possibly criminalize grieving women? Gotts to love these compassionate conservatives. But, you know, no war on women going on there.

  • cvryder2000

    Some idiot tried this in VA too. It eventually got laughed out of existence. I swear, we need to start spelling the name of this state KANSASS.